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Here we go. Next there'll be a campaign to relegate smokers to specially-built out-of-town facilities or "inhalation camps".
They're called 'Japan'. Or have they outlawed it there too, now? Japan were a British pop/rock group, formed in 1974 in Lewisham. They achieved success in the early 1980s, when they were often associated with the burgeoning New Romantic movement. As somone listening to Dr. Robert at the mo, I had completely forgotten about Japan!! I must search! |
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At every one of these [classical] concerts in England you will find rows of weary people who are there, not because they really like classical music, but because they think they ought to like it. (Shaw, Don Juan in Hell)
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Maybe you should have handed these out, A!  How does a "Vibrational Medicine" work I wonder?  |
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Merely corroborative detail, intended to give artistic verisimilitude to an otherwise bald and unconvincing narrative.
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« Reply #5719 on: 17:13:55, 05-05-2008 » |
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Just to explain. I have never smoked but really don't care if others do. The education programme has been going for a generation, so no, I wouldn't tell anyone to stop smoking. I do think there should be somewhere for smokers to smoke... not complaining at all.. Just commenting on the change of direction here. A  |
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Went to the pub for a quite drink this lovely morning and we thought we'd sit outside and enjoy the sunshine .... well it was like it used to be inside the pub, completely smoke saturated, so we had to move inside to escape and breathe the stale but smoke free air ! How the times have changed!! Outdoor smoke can hardly compare with exhaust fumes from cars. That's what you think Ian. We didn't cough when walking up the road. |
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« Reply #5722 on: 18:23:52, 05-05-2008 » |
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I had completely forgotten about Japan!!
I must search!
Now spinning here: Tin Drum. Some of the most musically-sophisticated pop music of its time, no? As for smoking, speaking as a one-or-two-a-month-on-average (depending on the company I keep  ) sort of guy these days, I feel the whole demonisation process has gone quite far enough. I've come to like the fact that pubs and restaurants are smoke-free but I was sitting (and abstaining) the other evening on one of the benches outside r3ok's own The George in Borough, where every smoker who'd just finished office work in the area was lighting up, and my lungs really didn't notice. But maybe it's too late for them. |
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Went to the pub for a quiet drink this lovely morning and we thought we'd sit outside and enjoy the sunshine .... well it was like it used to be inside the pub, completely smoke saturated, so we had to move inside to escape and breathe the stale but smoke free air ! How the times have changed!!
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I had a similar experience a couple of weeks ago when I was in the beer garden of the Figure of 8 in Brum at lunchtime - one of the few, possibly the only, beer garden in the city centre. There weren't many smokers out there so it certainly wasn't at all smokey but it struck me too how times have changed. I did smoke when I was young - until I was about 21 - but it's the smell I find so objectionable now, rather than any health hazard. Perhaps cigarettes smell better if you're smoking them yourself rather than getting them second-hand? I really enjoy being able to go to the pub now without coming home smelling like an old ashtray. |
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« Reply #5724 on: 20:06:40, 05-05-2008 » |
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Exactly Andy.
I am a chronic asthmatic , and as such I have never smoked . The smell and smoke of cigarettes has always been bad for me and until asthma inhalers came in I couldn't sit near a smoker without being in extreme discomfort.
I have never asked someone not to smoke, I have fairly often moved my seat in a restaraunt before the smoking ban as I strongly feel that I have no right to tell others how to behave in this or in eating meat for that matter !
My feller and I have bad colds at the moment and his cough is extremely bad... he had to move today because the smoke irritated it a great deal. We didn't comment or even look 'fed up' we just moved.
I was just commenting, like you Andy, on the different emphasis now.
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« Reply #5725 on: 20:08:54, 05-05-2008 » |
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Now spinning here: Tin Drum. Some of the most musically-sophisticated pop music of its time, no?
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Well this fits nicely into the subject. Neighbours had a bbq today with "fwens" in garden. I doubt there was a non-smoker present, and of course the smell just drifted across the fence. I've never smelt anything like it, rather than the usual slight choking sensation, it seems to infect and dull the mind somehow. I hope i didn't bang my window shut too rapidly... A new kitchen is going to pitch up tomorrow (in boxes). After having to help carry it all into the house (partly fate), I then have to see it stuck in a position which renders the piano useless. So for however long it'll be the digital. I suppose it's much more private. |
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Well this fits nicely into the subject. Neighbours had a bbq today with "fwens" in garden. I doubt there was a non-smoker present, and of course the smell just drifted across the fence. I've never smelt anything like it, rather than the usual slight choking sensation, it seems to infect and dull the mind somehow. I hope i didn't bang my window shut too rapidly... A new kitchen is going to pitch up tomorrow (in boxes). After having to help carry it all into the house (partly fate), I then have to see it stuck in a position which renders the piano useless. So for however long it'll be the digital. I suppose it's much more private. Good luck with the kithchen tomorrow!! You will need it! I do find it rather anti-social behaviour of neighbours to hold bbqs and not tell you and to top it all the smell of tobacco, yuk!!! |
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Do tell Richard, I am afraid I haven't heard of this, I like a lot of varied pop /rock/folk music so I wondered how I have missed it.. A I cannot say. One of the songs on that album (released in late 1981) reached the dubious position of no.5 or so in the singles charts, despite having impenetrable lyrics, no drums and a not especially tonal accompaniment.  |
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« Reply #5729 on: 22:36:10, 05-05-2008 » |
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There's plenty of more than Grumpy Ranting going on over at TOP (and to a much lesser extent here, on the music on TV threads) about the appalling coverage of Young Musician of the Year tonight on BBC4. Fully justified, in my opinion.
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