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Antheil
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« Reply #2265 on: 15:57:44, 15-06-2008 »

Nigella is very entertaining to watch but I gave up on her recipes long ago. I find them too 'busy' and cluttered with ingredients that clash and fight with eachother. The effect is generally unbalanced. I came to the conclusion that either we have wildly different palates or that she doesn't test her recipes.

I'll stick with Nige and Madhur Jaffrey for joint number 1 position. Followed by Claudia Roden.

Well you and me both as regards Nigella, Mort but you know we do have similar palates.  I guess I was thinking of British food but of course Madhur Jaffrey, her Eastern Vegetarian Cooking is a must have and her Indian Cookery but so is Arto der Haroutunian Vegetarian Dishes from the Middle East (I know Andy D also has this).  "'Claudia Roden is no more a simple cookbook writer than Marcel Proust was a bisuit baker. She is, rather, memorialist, historian, ethnogrpaher, anthropologist, essayist, poet ... " Simon Schama.  Which of her books do you rate the best/use most?

I confess I don't get on with Jamie Oliver.  Gordon Ramsay I find entertaining but not tempted to try his recipes, ditto Anthony Worrall-Thompson and most of the rest of the Celeb Chefs, used to like Gary Rhodes as he looked like Nigel Kennedy and as for Delia ...... She was Saint but is now Sinner in my eyes.

Keep it simple.  Just been reading Nige's Kitchen Diaries for mid June:- 

Broad beans with dill and yoghurt (sorry to bring the subject of yoghurt up again but did you know Nige eats it every day?)  Radish, mint and feta salad.  Orecchiette with roast tomato and basil sauce.  Broad bean and dill 'hummous'.  Roast lamb with cumin and fresh mint.  Grilled chicken with harissa and mint.  Seems he likes mint as well  Cheesy  But anything I read from him just makes me want to cook it.

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« Reply #2266 on: 16:34:40, 15-06-2008 »

Nige ... anything I read from him just makes me want to cook it.


That pretty much sums it up for me, Ants. I always want to cook what he has written about <gannet emoticon> His obvious enthusiasm for food make the recipes come alive. Mind you, he's a big fan of this. I keep meaning to buy a copy. It's been much praised.


As for Claudia Roden, the books I use most frequently are A Book of Middle Eastern Food (plently of veggie friendly recipes there) and Mediterranean Cookery. Lovely stuff!

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« Reply #2267 on: 17:02:36, 15-06-2008 »

I've never heard of that Simon Hopkinson Mort.  Might see if the library has it.

The Claudia Roden book I used to have was the Middle Eastern Food which has gone missing as has my Elizabeth David French Provincial Cookery together with several other cook books.  N.B.  Never lend favourite cook books or share your house with kleptomaniacs.

I think what I like about Madhur, Claudia and Elizabeth is that they weren't just recipes but little stories and anecdotes.  A good read in other words.  Which is also why I like Nige's Kitchen Diaries.
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« Reply #2268 on: 17:07:59, 15-06-2008 »

Elizabeth David French Provincial Cookery

That's a MUST-HAVE! Go get another copy, Anty. It's just jam-packed with awesome stuff. And, as you say, it and her other work set the trend for good writing ABOUT food, as well as great recipes.

I like some of Jamie's recipes, but am a bit bored by him. Will agree about Ower St. Nige, of course, and Madhur. I'll also throw in Anthony Bourdain, who I've mentioned here before, I think, and writes better than any of them.
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« Reply #2269 on: 17:12:07, 15-06-2008 »

I see that once again Tessa Kiros han't been mentioned. That's too bad. She and Madhur are joint holders of the Order of the Splattered Page round here.
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« Reply #2270 on: 17:20:16, 15-06-2008 »

That Simon Hopkinson used to write in the Independent.  I believe he started work in a Welsh hotel.

Jane Grigson is my companion on fish and veg.  What a nice soul she must have been.  No fussy times and quantities.  Take as much as you like and cook it as long as it needs.

Elizabeth David is a wonderful read, particularly Italian Food.  And not a nice soul at all, poor dear.  Still a great stylist.  And she knew, which I am convinced most English cookery writers ignore, that what matters with food is the actual taste.  Funny she smoked like a chimney.  (Le Creuset manufacture cookery ware for the English market in blue,  because that was the colour of ED's Gaulois packet when she visited them and asked her what colour she would like.  "Like that" she said thrusting out her fag packet - Americans please note I am following strict British usage here.)
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« Reply #2271 on: 17:23:19, 15-06-2008 »

I see that once again Tessa Kiros han't been mentioned. That's too bad. She and Madhur are joint holders of the Order of the Splattered Page round here.

My brother gave mum Falling Cloudberries for Christmas and I enjoyed reading it. Not cooked anything from it though.
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« Reply #2272 on: 17:38:52, 15-06-2008 »

Elizabeth David French Provincial Cookery

That's a MUST-HAVE! Go get another copy, Anty. It's just jam-packed with awesome stuff. And, as you say, it and her other work set the trend for good writing ABOUT food, as well as great recipes.

 I'll also throw in Anthony Bourdain, who I've mentioned here before, I think, and writes better than any of them.

Marty, Marty, Marty x confit de canard,  I have Anthony Bourdain, and Kitchen Confidential, it was you that persuaded me to get it!

Retreats, disconsolate, that famous composer having urged a Welsh person to part with money (not often that easy) has no knowledge of transaction and the havoc in her life he may have caused by the reading of the aforesaid mentioned.
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« Reply #2273 on: 18:24:15, 15-06-2008 »



 famous composer having urged a Welsh person to part with money (not often that easy) has no knowledge of transaction and the havoc in her life he may have caused by the reading of the aforesaid mentioned.

CRIPES Ants! You only had to read the book, not adopt the Bourdain lifestyle Shocked Cheesy
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« Reply #2274 on: 18:25:25, 15-06-2008 »

I'm (loosely) following Nigel's instructions on dauphinoise tonight. It's got mackerel in it and I'm having it with salad.
It's one of those dishes I associate with a particular friend, in this case we went out for a few months earlier this academic year and about a month after we split up, she effectively excised me from her life. She texted me for the first time last week to say that she was in hospital with peritonitis. I'm not sure why that's interesting or relevant, but I'm having one of those days and it feels better for saying it (or typing it).
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« Reply #2275 on: 18:31:12, 15-06-2008 »

Kitchen Confidential

And the Les Halles Cookbook! Magnificent. And, to a lesser degree, A Cook's Tour, which suffers slightly from being the by-product of a US TV series and is a little self-consciously written.

Tessa Kiros, Richard? On my list. (Never heard of her.)
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« Reply #2276 on: 18:43:59, 15-06-2008 »

I've just been googling Tessa Kiros. I rather like the sound of her style. Thanks for that, Richard. I'll check my piggybank before giving the River peeps my loot Wink
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« Reply #2277 on: 18:44:57, 15-06-2008 »

Kitchen Confidential

And the Les Halles Cookbook! Magnificent. And, to a lesser degree, A Cook's Tour, which suffers slightly from being the by-product of a US TV series and is a little self-consciously written.

Tessa Kiros, Richard? On my list. (Never heard of her.)

I see that once again Tessa Kiros han't been mentioned. That's too bad. She and Madhur are joint holders of the Order of the Splattered Page round here.

Now, now, or, Duw Duw, Bach Fach, if you happen to come from Abertawe, we can't be having this.  Tessa, Madhur, Elizabeth, Claudia, Jane, the best cookery writers and they are all Wimmin?

Thank goodness Nige is in touch with his feminine side.  I fear the rampant finger of feminism may arise vis a vis cookery writers, who of course all read the Daily Maul.
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« Reply #2278 on: 19:09:54, 15-06-2008 »

Here's some typical Bourdain prose, on the subject of 'sourcing':


You want fresh black cod, or feathered tripe, or pig's feet, or fresh-killed chicken or blood or uncured pork belly? Find where they're getting theirs in the Asian community, friend. Fresh fish is a religion in much of Asia. If there's a Chinatown or an Asian market near your area, you can almost always find the good stuff. Need esoteric pork products? If the Asians don't have it, the Mexican or Latino market will. Duck? I believe the Chinese know a thing or two about that particular animal, yes? Eastern European Jews certainly know about chicken. When you can't find any hippie-raised free-range stuff, there's always kosher. If you're lucky enough to have Hasidim in any number around, there is every likelihood of fresh-killed poultry. If you need lamb that was saying 'baa-baa' yesterday, a Muslim halal butcher is the place to go. In all likelihood, there's someone in your family who is not from these shores who likes it the old way. Maybe it's time to pump Granny for information on where she used to get her pig knuckles and real sauerkraut back in the old days. Who knows, the store might still be there.
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« Reply #2279 on: 19:29:40, 15-06-2008 »

Here's some typical Welsh prose, on the subject of 'sourcing':

"Here be a lamp post"

"Well get those buglars tethered, Dai,  Duw, Duw, quick!

"Suppose they are suspecting?"

"Tell them it's a new Leisure Centre!  They will understand that"

"Right Oh, then what?"

"Say there is Line Dancing tonight"

"Will they like that?"

"Dunno, I have lost interest in them, but I is up for it, you coming Cariad?"

"But what about these three tethered ewes?"

"Oh leave them, they ain't got rhythm and are probably Lesbians"
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