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richard barrett
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« Reply #465 on: 10:32:24, 10-09-2007 »
I have it on good authority that, while in general German potatoes are called either Kartoffel or Erdäpfel, there are some in-between zones where they're called Erdtoffel, which is a bit like people in the mid-Atlantic using words like liftevator or troot (the luggage compartment of a car).
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« Reply #466 on: 10:59:56, 10-09-2007 »
It is a bit, but I wonder if Kartoffel and Erdapfel might be a teensy bit related in some way rather than being essentially different words in the manner of boot and trunk...

They're also called ground pears in some parts. I don't know if there's a version of Himmel un Ääd made with pears but I'd be up for it.

This from wiki. It should clear everything up.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kartoffel

Regionale Namen

Es haben sich zahlreiche Regionalnamen für die Kartoffel entwickelt, darunter Arber, Ärpel, Bramburi (im Norden Niederösterreichs, vermutlich aus dem tschechischen von Lilek brambor abgeleitet), Erdapfel (Erdtoffel), Erdbirn, Flezbirn, Grübling, Grundbirn, Knulle (im Süden von Brandenburg), Krumbiir, Krumbeer, Nudel, Schucke, Bulwe, Kästen und Erpfel. Im Plattdeutschen wird sie Tüfte genannt. In Franken verwendet man noch vereinzelt die Bezeichnung Potacken oder, näher an der Aussprache, Bodaggn. In Teilen von Rheinland-Pfalz und dem Saarland nennt man die Kartoffeln Grumbeere oder Grumbiere, so auch in der benachbarten Kurpfalz oder in Nordbaden, im Luxemburgischen sagt man Gromper. In Trier wird Gromper aber eher als „Krumpa“ ausgesprochen. Dafür wird in Schwaben das ähnliche Wort Grombiera verwendet. Im Salzburger Lungau sagt man Eachtling dazu. Auf Grund unterschiedlicher Dialektvarianten können die Namen bereits von Ort zu Ort wechseln: Ebbiera und im Nachbarort heißen die Kartoffeln schon: Eaberra.

Das Wort „Grumbier“ (Erd-Birne) hat sich auch in den südslawischen Sprachen verbreitet: Im Bereich von Ex-Jugoslawien heißt die Kartoffel Krumpir. Im Russischen und Polnischen wurde dagegen „Kartoffel“ als Fremdwort übernommen, wobei in Polen auch der Begriff „ziemniak“ (Erdling) verbreitet ist. Der tschechische Begriff „brambor“ leitet sich von „Braniborsko“ (Brandenburg) ab, von wo aus die Kartoffel einst nach Böhmen eingeführt wurde.
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« Reply #467 on: 11:03:33, 10-09-2007 »
`one of the sausages is wrong `

Methinks I spy a worthy contender for the Off Topic thread!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #468 on: 11:07:04, 10-09-2007 »
Quote from: oliver sudden on 09:24:40, 10-09-2007
one of the sausages is wrong


My guess is it's the one on the right, even though it sits atop the correct pile of vegetative accompaniment.
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« Reply #469 on: 11:12:21, 10-09-2007 »
The one on the right is in fact in both senses the right sausage. As far as I'm concerned in the best Flönz even the white bits are black. Smiley
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« Reply #470 on: 12:10:55, 10-09-2007 »
Oi calls 'em spuds.
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Chafing Dish
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« Reply #471 on: 05:06:13, 13-09-2007 »
Another nice dialect topic is the word for the end of a loaf of bread. Germans have several words, though the one I grew up with was Knust. [knoost]
Pronounce the "k"; and let the vowel be like this:  Kiss

A Palatinate colleague said Knertzje and a roommate from Leipzig said Renfte -- anyone know any others? What's the Kölsch version?
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« Reply #472 on: 09:47:48, 13-09-2007 »
Cripes. I don't think there's any risk of me going quite so native that I know that one.

LEO's giving me:

Ranft
Kanten in the north
Scherzl as well or Scherzel in Bavaria or Austria.

There isn't really a simple word for it in English is there?
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« Reply #473 on: 10:04:13, 13-09-2007 »
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There isn't really a simple word for it in English is there?
Isn't there? It's called a crust where I come from.

But maybe that's one of those words that travels less than I realise across the rest of the English-speaking world. Like "clothes maiden".
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« Reply #474 on: 10:41:00, 13-09-2007 »
Quote from: time_is_now on 10:04:13, 13-09-2007
Quote from: oliver sudden on 09:47:48, 13-09-2007
There isn't really a simple word for it in English is there?
Isn't there? It's called a crust where I come from.

But maybe that's one of those words that travels less than I realise across the rest of the English-speaking world. Like "clothes maiden".

Or "clothes horse".
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« Reply #475 on: 11:04:35, 13-09-2007 »
Isn't it also called the heel of the loaf to avoid confusion with the crust that's all over the bread?
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« Reply #476 on: 11:24:52, 13-09-2007 »
I've never heard 'heel', hh! But I do suspect this is one of those things that has very localised variations in vocabulary ...
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« Reply #477 on: 12:06:36, 13-09-2007 »
"Heel" of a loaf is a very old description.  I know - I come from a long line of bakers and confectioners. 

I stopped making bread some time ago.  Doesn't seem much point these days - but I have very happy memories of it all being eaten whilst still warm with the butter melting on it.  I could never make enough for my family.  Smiley
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« Reply #478 on: 12:19:14, 13-09-2007 »
I have also heard it called the elbow. Not Milly's family -- the end of the bread.
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« Reply #479 on: 12:21:30, 13-09-2007 »
"Heel" sounds familiar, though I hadn't thought of it. I've never heard "elbow".
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