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Author Topic: Meeting Life's Challenges & Upsets  (Read 26265 times)
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« Reply #675 on: 23:31:11, 25-01-2008 »

The only people that aren't would be psychopaths who I've read are born without the wiring that gives us a conscience. 
Not necessarily; well, it depends on one's definitions, and whatever they might be, it's rather complicated from what I understand; some people are prone to psychotic episodes, but wouldn't be considered to be psychopathic 24/7.  (my understanding of all this is minimal).

I don't understand it at all.  Psychopaths are not considered to be insane and are dealt with in the Courts as any other criminal.   However when you look at the type of crimes that psychopaths usually commit I don't see how insanity doesn't come into it.  It is extremely complicated as you say.


It might be worth referencing the clinically reckoned  a distinction between psychotic episodes and a long-term pathology. Mind you Milly, your position is close to Ronnie Laing and David Cooper who reckoned that some social set-ups are themselves pathological so that what's conveniently called 'madness' is a relatively sane reaction.
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« Reply #676 on: 23:54:09, 01-02-2008 »

It's not really that challenging, but a wee bit upsetting: I had a call earlier this evening from his daughter to tell me that the friend of mine who started off as a customer when I was working 'in between' in the Hi-fi shop some thirty years ago passed away today, less than seven months before his hundredth birthday. It's his speakers and electronics which grace the study as I type now: in the last few years Down South, when he lived just a couple of doors down the road, I'd often go round for a musical evening, especially after his first wife went into a home: he had a very inquisitive musical brain, and was willing to try all sorts of things: we ventured as far as Turnage, and once had an evening comparing ten or twelve recordings of Danse Sacrale from Le Sacre. The evenings would be enlivened by a glass or two of a very fine malt, and if he dozed off for the odd moment, well, it was understandable....

After his first wife died, he moved into the same home she'd been in, where he soon met a very feisty lady quite different from his first wife. I was at their marriage (She 90, He 96) not long before moving up, and, more sadly, at her funeral early last year. They'd had a wonderful time together, and her going hit him hard: he seems to have been fading gradually ever since. I had a call only a couple of days ago to say that he was slipping away, so tonight's news wasn't altogether unexpected, but I'd just like to leave this little tribute to a grand old man.

T. Raymond Robson, (1908-2008) R.I.P.
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« Reply #677 on: 23:59:04, 01-02-2008 »

That's very touching, Ron. He sounds a wonderful man who lived life to the full.
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« Reply #678 on: 00:02:31, 02-02-2008 »

Ron, that's sad, but I have some 12 year old malt here if you would wish to raise a glass to your friend Mr. Robson in memory?
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« Reply #679 on: 00:03:46, 02-02-2008 »

That's a wonderful post Ron.  It sounds like he had a great life and you have some great memories of time together to cherish.

Best wishes

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« Reply #680 on: 08:06:37, 02-02-2008 »

Ron, Thank you for your  post. It was an amazing life. He saw many changes in this world and he obviously knew how to take life and how to make the most of it.
R  Raymond Robson R.I.P. We all send you our love.



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« Reply #681 on: 08:36:16, 02-02-2008 »

That`s a  very touching story Ron. Your friend sounds to me like man who never got old, despite his age. A life well lived.  RIP indeed.
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« Reply #682 on: 09:16:45, 02-02-2008 »



T. Raymond Robson

(Raymond would have been 97 when I took this picture.)
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« Reply #683 on: 09:29:07, 02-02-2008 »

Now there`s face showing enjoyment of life, Ron. There`s a twinkle in those eyes.
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« Reply #684 on: 09:34:44, 02-02-2008 »

You can tell from a face, can't you? Life and warmth. And humour, I'll bet!
Lovely post, Ron.
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« Reply #685 on: 10:19:12, 02-02-2008 »

Great post Ron. Very touching and rather beautiful.

( I hope I make it to that age too provided I'm healthy of course).
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« Reply #686 on: 13:56:04, 03-02-2008 »

Today is my Mother's birthday.  Well, it would be except she died unexpectedly three and a half years ago.  She wasn't ill, perfectly healthy, but she had a severe viral (gastric) infection and on going to the bathroom fainted and knocked herself out on the edge of the bath.  My sister found her and they took her into hospital to rehydrate her and obs. for a couple of days.   My brother phoned me and said we'd go and see her together when she was back home but of course that didn't happen, they were going to discharge her when she suddenly died from an embolism.

So that was that, no goodbyes.  The anniversary of her death doesn't affect me at all, it's the birthday that does.  Don't know why.  Perhaps it's because it was also her wedding anniversary (she married on her 22nd  birthday) and as children I remember we had a double celebration with super meal and always to finish one of the Christmas puddings my Nan had made which had been put aside for the occasion.

Horrible day here today, so dark I've got the lights on, gale force winds, black clouds.
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« Reply #687 on: 14:10:57, 03-02-2008 »

That's a sad story. Anty. My mother's birthday was also in February, and she died five days before her 90th. She had had two strokes and was miserable, so it was a relief in many ways, but I was nevertheless consumed by grief. I can't imagine the shock you must have had, because it's a shock even when it's expected.

Horrible day here, too.
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« Reply #688 on: 14:17:52, 03-02-2008 »

Thanks for that Mary, I suppose I am just feeling a bit sorry for myself today and a bit maudlin.

It's the memories it brings back. 

Not like rufty-tufty Anty to be so sentimental!!
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« Reply #689 on: 14:35:28, 03-02-2008 »

Ants, you`re not being sentimental (why does that seem to have such a negative connotation now, btw?) you`re remembering someone that you loved and lost suddenly with no warning. You are more than entitled to shed some tears or grieve today. But maybe you can dig out some happy memories as well from among the sad?

 If it hadn`t have been for your mother we would never have had the always unpredicatable Ants. Or Stoat Kiss Kiss
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