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Mary Chambers
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« Reply #3720 on: 22:32:56, 31-07-2008 »

Talking of Brighton, I'm fascinated in a literary way by Rottingdean. Does anyone know a marvellous children's book called Alice and Thomas and Jane, by Enid Bagnold? She lived in the house formerly owned by Burne-Jones.The book brings the place as it was in 1930 or so wonderfully to life. Kipling also lived in Rottingdean for a time.
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« Reply #3721 on: 23:06:29, 31-07-2008 »

I don't know that book, Mary, but will now seek it out.

I did however recently see Enid Bagnold's play The Chalk Garden (with two revelatory performances by Penelope Wilton and Margaret Tyzack) which was also said to have been inspired by that house at Rottingdean. I didn't really know anything about Enid Bagnold at all and the draw was Penelope Wilton to be honest and I was expecting/fearing something much cosier than it turned out to be. It was very affecting and not cosy at all. That's the sort of surprise I like.
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« Reply #3722 on: 08:23:43, 01-08-2008 »

I've heard of The Chalk Garden, but I don't know it at all. Enid Bagnold's most famous book is probably (because of the film) National Velvet, which I believe is also set in the Rottingdean area, though I've never read it.

Alice and Thomas and Jane is no longer in print, though I can't think why not. I loved it, and so did my children. It has eccentric illustrations by the author herself, and also by a child called Laurian Jones, a large part of its appeal. It's the area that is brought to life rather than the house, although that's described too. One of the children stows away in a ship from Newhaven to Dieppe, and the Dieppe of that time is vividly described as well, its smells, food and foreignness.

(I'm a bit of a Penelope Wilton fan myself, George.)

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« Reply #3723 on: 10:24:54, 01-08-2008 »

I've heard of The Chalk Garden, but I don't know it at all. Enid Bagnold's most famous book is probably (because of the film) National Velvet, which I believe is also set in the Rottingdean area, though I've never read it.

Neither have I but I may even do so after this. Goodness, the things one ends up doing as a result of these Message Boards. Vaughan Williams operas one week, National Velvet the next. I'll have to see if I can get a copy in a plain brown wrapper.     

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(I'm a bit of a Penelope Wilton fan myself, George.)

I've never seen her put a foot wrong and she just seems to get better and better. She can do anything: Ibsen, Chekhov, Shakespeare, Pirandello, Pinter, Beckett, Enid Bagnold ...  My general rule of thumb. If she is in it, it'll be worth going to see.  

Here, FWIW, are a couple of reviews of that The Chalk Garden:

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/theatre/reviews/the-chalk-garden-donmar-warehouse-london-846196.html

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/stage/theatre/article4117480.ece

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2008/06/13/btchalk113.xml

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« Reply #3724 on: 14:40:29, 01-08-2008 »

My general rule of thumb. If she is in it, it'll be worth going to see.
It's better than another occasional member of this forum who commented they only like plays when Simon Russell Beale is starring! Wink
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« Reply #3725 on: 14:59:57, 01-08-2008 »

Nothing wrong with Simon Russell Beale......

Those are very good reviews of The Chalk Garden. Perhaps I should read it, and National Velvet too, though I don't know if I can take all that horsey stuff now I'm (more or less) grown up. Mr Google tells me that Laurian Jones, who did the childish illustrations for early editions of that and also for Alice and Thomas and Jane, was Enid Bagnold's daughter. Impossible not to notice the similarity between her name and that of the daughter in the play, Laurel. Perhaps she turned into a pyromaniac as she got older.

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« Reply #3726 on: 16:57:56, 01-08-2008 »

Nothing wrong with Simon Russell Beale.....

He always seems to be on when we get into the National Theatre.  It is odd to realise why a short, fat, balding, middle aged bloke gets these star parts (he was Benedick in Much Ado earlier this year) but a friend in the Profession tells me he has a Very Lovely Voice.

Somehow when he acts, the fact he is short, etc, becomes irrelavant.

As Undershaft in Major Barbara he was playing a heavy convincingly.  What an odd play, seeming to be in favour of the arms trade.
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« Reply #3727 on: 17:12:25, 01-08-2008 »

Ooh. Simon Russell Beale as Ferdinand in The Duchess of Malfi (opposite Juliet Stevenson as the Duchess)
Or as Ariel in The Tempest (with David Troughton as Caliban).
Marvellous.
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« Reply #3728 on: 18:02:00, 01-08-2008 »

Mary and George.    I do recommend Enid Bagnold's AUTOBIOGRAPHY (1969, reprinted with minor corrections in 1970!) and published by Heinemann/Cox & Wyman Ltd.

Enid Bagnold was born in 1889.

On being asked to write her autobiography...
'Why?'
'Things must have been different in your day.'
'The door handles were different.  We used the words "scullery", "pantry", and "fingerbowl".
The water closet was enclosed in mahogany.   The fears were the same."

The book cover has a striking portrait of E B by Walter Sickert.    I really MUST learn how to download these things.

I saw the orginal production of "The Chalk Garden" (1956 ish) at The Haymarket with Edith Evans as Mrs St Maugham and Peggy Ashcroft as Miss Madrigal - and lovely Felix Aylmer, perfect as the Judge.   I can still hear Dame Edith's entrance line  "Maitland - m'teeth" and now realise why her retort "I'm never at my best through mahogany" got such a big laugh at the time.  The 1964 film version, directed by Ronald Neame, fell flat.   Evans was complemented by Deborah Kerr.

  John Gielgud's blurb for the autobiograpy reads:   'Tempestuous, vivid and shrewdly characteristic.   Not only does her own character emerge triumphantly on every page, but she delights one with a whole gallery of remarkable characters who have been lovers, friends and enemies.'

George.    May I add Penelope Wilton as Hester Colyer in Rattigan's "Deep Blue Sea"; Almeida (late 80s) before transferring to The Apollo, Shaftesbury Avenue?   I bet there was a criss-cross between us, again.     It was also recorded by the BBC so I must find my off-air.   
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« Reply #3729 on: 20:43:20, 01-08-2008 »


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(I'm a bit of a Penelope Wilton fan myself, George.)

I've never seen her put a foot wrong and she just seems to get better and better.

I trust you're listening to this (and next) week's dramatised WH story then, GG? Called Inside the Whale by Jennie Rooney, it's a woman (Penelope Wilton) reminiscing about her wartime experiences. No doubt it's all on LA but since it started on Mon you'd better catch it soon if you want to. Repeated about now(?)* every evening too.

Edit: More info and all the links for LA here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/arts/whour_drama.shtml

*No, at 7.45pm
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« Reply #3730 on: 09:20:19, 02-08-2008 »

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... "The fears were the same."

I do like that. I'll try and get hold of that autobiography. I went along to the library yesterday with my R3OK shopping list: that one, Mary's Alice and Thomas and Jane and the two Michael Powell's you mentioned. None of them there which was not altogether surprising. National Velvet was but I didn't quite have the courage to face Miss  Guerrault on the desk with that one.

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Penelope Wilton as Hester Colyer in Rattigan's "Deep Blue Sea"; Almeida (late 80s) before transferring to The Apollo, Shaftesbury Avenue?   I bet there was a criss-cross between us, again. 

Regrettably not in that case, Stanley. I missed that one. Rather envious now. And even more of Edith Evans and Peggy Ashcroft in The Chalk Garden!

Thank you for pointing out Inside the Whale. I had failed to spot that but will join in from Monday and, since tomorrow looks as if it is going to be gloomy and soggy, will see if I can do a bit of catching up on this week's episodes.
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« Reply #3731 on: 18:43:41, 02-08-2008 »

This was destined to be a Grump, but I have now put down the phone after speaking to British Gas with rather a bemused half-smile on my face. I phoned them to object to the fact I have just received an Final Demand for a Bill that I had never received and anyway it was outrageous etc., etc. By the time I finished the phone call, having been reassured I would now receive a copy of the said Bill, I discovered that the chap I was speaking to weighs 18stone, has ADD, broke his wrist by hitting the wall  (6 times)after his girlfriend left him. has been in and out of plaster since April 2007 and may now have to have surgery to 'wire it together so the bone doesn't go stagnant'. Oh and he's applied for a job 'It's more than a Health Care Assistant, but I won't be a Nurse' in paediatrics.

I wished him much good luck and then wondered if the call had been taped 'for training purposes'. I hope not. I  also hope he finds the right niche for himself. 
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« Reply #3732 on: 23:46:10, 02-08-2008 »

I've been trying to think of children's books involving a journey, to link to our whole school topic in the Autumn term and it occurred to me that some of you wonderful people may have some good ideas. I really want to focus on one book (and perhaps do a display mapping the journey on the long board in the corridor too) but could read several if they were shorter. The children are 6-8 year olds. Most do not have books at home, nor someone to read to them so they really appreciate stories at school but tend to respond better to "easier" stories, ie not too complicated or I've lost them and their attention wanders.

I was considering The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe but it may be too long to read aloud. And too much fighting and nastiness - they have enough of that in real life! But I liked the idea of a long display starting on the LHS with the children in the wardrobe (with touchy-feely fur-fabric coats!), then a wintry forest, then other events in the story up to the last scene on the RHS with as them as kings and queens.

Wonder if I could cut or even "bowdlerise" the story? Do I hear the tut-tutting of disapproval? I rather fear I do! Cheesy
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« Reply #3733 on: 23:58:13, 02-08-2008 »

A condensed version sounds a possibility to me MJ, but if that doesn't pan out, how about a collection of poems and nursery rhymes? You might be able to cover quite a bit of the country that way....

(Just a late night idea)
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« Reply #3734 on: 01:14:22, 03-08-2008 »

MabelJane, that is appalling, 6 to 8 year olds with no books and no one to read to them?  Not sure about Lion and Witch, maybe a bit heavy?

Anyway, goodness!  (Goodness has nothing to do with it!)  Here I am, the only living girl in New York it seems.  Been out with friend,  now what to play to send me to sleep?
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