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Author Topic: Roger Wright in Feedback  (Read 2002 times)
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« Reply #30 on: 18:51:58, 16-03-2007 »

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His breathtaking "I'm right, so there" arrogance made me feel sick.

That attitude will get him precisely nowhere if this poltroon is handed The Proms. His hopeless attitude to programming, hatred of contemporary music, and his woefully inadequate interpersonal skills mark him out as one of the worst people who might take the helm there Sad
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« Reply #31 on: 19:50:49, 16-03-2007 »

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Well I'm still a bit shell-shocked after hearing (using 'Listen Again') Roger Wright on feedback.

Points I picked up were:

"listener figures are only one measure" - so they ARE a measure, determining whether a programme remains in the schedule.

So, 6 hours of Through The Night will remain forever with just 50,000 listeners???  but Brian Kay's Light Programme and Mixing It with >150,000 or so will be axed?

Roger Wright says he WILL listen to the new Mixing It show on Resonance FM. Yeah right. Does he know it's new name???  Roll Eyes

Does that mean he will also contibute to the Mixing It thread on this messageboard? No?

Roger Wright said there are no plans to ressurrect a 'Classical Music on R3' forum at the BBC website. That's it then. It's down to us at R3boards/R3ok and FoR3 to keep our classical music-loving communities together, Roger is not interested.

Roger Wright says he is pleased that alternative R3 messageboards have been set up. Did he acknowledge WHY they were set up? Did he instruct his moderators at R3MB to direct all the deleted posters to post here? No.

At one point Roger Wright said (with reference to posters at R3MB) "they can talk about anything they want" but failed to say that they can only do so at the alternative messageboards, like here.

I'm very unhappy with Roger Wright's explanations. Yeah OK, we have a nice forum running here now but the CMoR3 forum at BBC website was very good and the curent forum(s) at R3 do not deserve to be such a sad place now.


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« Reply #32 on: 20:20:50, 16-03-2007 »

Is it apt that Mr Wright puts in such a performance on Feedback on the same day that he presides over six hours and forty five minutes of the crummiest programming of the year ( from 1400 to 2045 ) ?

Ok, I'll own up. I haven't actually heard any of those programmes but the descriptions of them do not appeal at all and there seems to have been zero interest about any of them on this board or at the other place. The Verb and Jazz Library look good though !
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« Reply #33 on: 21:19:02, 16-03-2007 »

Yesterday I was listening in the afternoon and there was a beautiful piece. I phoned the 08700 100 222 to ask them where on the R3 MBs I could post a comment to the effect that I had enjoyed it very much. The young man on the phone spent quite a few minutes trying to find what of course ther is NOT - an MB for Afternoon on 3. Well, I hope they recorded that 'for training purposes'!
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« Reply #34 on: 22:33:56, 16-03-2007 »

Roger Wright says he is pleased that alternative R3 messageboards have been set up. Did he acknowledge WHY they were set up? Did he instruct his moderators at R3MB to direct all the deleted posters to post here? No.

At one point Roger Wright said (with reference to posters at R3MB) "they can talk about anything they want" but failed to say that they can only do so at the alternative messageboards, like here.

I thought exactly the same when I was listening to Feedback this afternoon, John. Dear old Roger is "praising" the alternative message boards, but there is no link to these boards on the Radio 3 website. That means that people who don't know that these boards exist, will never find them. I would like it very much to welcome new visitors to the Radio 3 website also to this MB, but with the way the Radio 3 website is now moderated, it isn't impossible, I'm afraid. Sad
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« Reply #35 on: 11:42:08, 17-03-2007 »

Given the character of many of the posters who have now joined the official board, I hope to goodness we never hear from them.

As regards the Red Nose Day effort, I caught five minutes of the end of the William Tell overture, with the trombone played to sound like a whoopee cushion, to illustrate the character of the trombone.  I know the WT overture is not a piece of the greatest high seriousness, and I hate to sound like a negative snob, but it was just awful.  I turned over to Any Questions, (where to my amazement the token Tory was courteous and articulate which made a change to my mind.)
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« Reply #36 on: 12:48:20, 17-03-2007 »

DonB.  I agree with you about the character of some of the new posters in the "other place".  They are, of course, not "all like that", but enough are unpleasant for me to feel a little suspicious of motives.
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« Reply #37 on: 13:19:15, 17-03-2007 »

But we Tories are always courteous and articulate, Don B!  Cool
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« Reply #38 on: 17:00:04, 18-03-2007 »

As this message board is listed among the external links on the Wikipedia entry for BBC Radio 3, interested listeners will find it anyway, I think. Smiley
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« Reply #39 on: 05:23:42, 27-03-2007 »

Thomson is absolutely right,` and I suspect there has been too much pussyfooting towards the imposers of the cuts. What  is also happening is that Radio 3 is becoming more of a radio station than a facilitator of musical
appreciation-they're now 2 entirely different concepts. In place of the ads, you have the sel-referencing rather
than the transparency and outreach being rightly argued for here as a way of making the best of the enforced
aspects of the changes. This is where Rob's breakfast interaction may improve the situation over time, but as
a musician I don't think what's going on now meets my needs very much, nor could I reccomend it to anyone
on a regular basis.-though the odd gem will shine through.I think the standing of R3 as a benchmark has diminished pro tem, wheras just prior to the changes it had got the balance just about right given its resourcing.
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« Reply #40 on: 19:28:33, 27-03-2007 »

I suspect this topic may have run its course, but there are things going on tv that reflect the current notions of
value in public service/ neo public\service stuff. Two quotes from yesterday and today's Evening Standard (fact
not opinion)
1) Jeni Barnett has been fronting a wildly succesful, entertaining and informative food prog on something called
UK TV Food in which the BBC I think has a stake. Victor Lewis-Smith reports that its so good that its cancelled from next week. Jenny joshes with a guest who mentions that only cockroaches would survive in a nuclear attack, and
evolve more quickly after it, that they'd '...Turn into TV executives' (adminsitering as it were the cultural wasteland they'd brought about)
2) Phillip Glenister of the current cop show Life on Mars '...We turn(an episode) in one time and on budget and they say this proves we can do it for less... the TV industry is run by fools'.

In radio terms, Smooth FM(and several other stations) have changed their format against the evidence of their
own viewing figures, presumably chasing the heavy hitters among potential advertisers. This has nothing to
do with a Music policy-there survives a ragbag which with luck will have some production integrity, but its not
being encouraged.

With screwy irony its as if  the commercial wisdom were emulating what the BBC does to middle england when it
scraps or degrades a popular programme, or maybe the one sector chases thge other in descdending spiral?

In about 1935 in an essay in The New Outline of Modern Knowledge (ed Pryce-Jones)  a senior BBC figure called
Harman Grisewood discoursed very presciently on the dangers of ignoring a distinction between "homo faber"
and a neophyte creature calling itself " homo media"

I'm off the soapbox now, but the dysfunctional rambling of the EFL students downstairs is imho an affliction brought about by  bad, and badly up itself bits of media taken to be some kind of cultural standard.

It's just occured to me that I might be doing a passable impersonation of Syd aka Easter Island
- but I'm sure he'd thunder more eloquently. Wink
 
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