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Scott Nelson
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« Reply #75 on: 21:39:04, 09-03-2007 »
John,

Weekdays 5.00 - 7.00pm most people are commuting home from work, therefore it makes perfect sense to have a laid back programme and presenter on at that time rather than somebody who prattles on too much. I think Mark Forrest's format on Classic FM works very well. One of the reasons why I gave up on Chris Evans on  Radio 2 is because of the prattle and stupidity. Sean Rafferty as a radio presenter is just fine, it's the format of his show I am not too keen on.
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« Reply #76 on: 22:38:56, 09-03-2007 »
Quote from: Scott Nelson on 21:39:04, 09-03-2007

Weekdays 5.00 - 7.00pm most people are commuting home from work, therefore it makes perfect sense to have a laid back programme and presenter on at that time rather than somebody who prattles on too much.

No. That does not make "perfect sense". You are not understanding the musical interest of most Radio 3 listeners. Also many commuters are listening to radios on the train and a good percentage of Sean's audience are at home like myself, or still at work in their quiet office, so you are generalising Scott about an audience you do not understand.


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I think Mark Forrest's format on Classic FM works very well.

Correct, for the CFM audience, and so Sean's show can be aimed at the more informed audience, and an audience that wants to be informed even more.


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Sean Rafferty as a radio presenter is just fine, it's the format of his show I am not too keen on.

That's OK, but you cannot say that a laid back programme would make 'perfect sense' if it would not suit myself and most of Sean's other fans, while CFM are already offering something 'laid back'. Roll Eyes

You cannot state your opinion as fact Scott, especially as you have only regularly listened to Sean for about two weeks. Try assessing Sean's prattle for a year and then come back to this thread  Tongue


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« Reply #77 on: 12:01:33, 10-03-2007 »
But John, I am not the only person on this thread who has protested against the amount of prattle (not drivel) on Sean's programme. Just because you don't feel like relaxing at 5pm weekdays, that doesn't mean to say the rest of us follow suit.
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« Reply #78 on: 12:45:08, 10-03-2007 »
Scott,

I'm explaining why I like the show, while YOU are saying the show IS wrong (i.e. fact), stating change would make 'perfect sense' as fact, when it's just your opinion.

As I said, you cannot state your opinion as fact Scott, especially as you have only regularly listened to Sean for about two weeks. Try assessing Sean's prattle for a year and then come back to this thread   Tongue

After a year you will have a more informed opinion, and maybe instead of just saying that change would make perfect sense you will have learned to debate.  Grin


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« Reply #79 on: 13:00:41, 10-03-2007 »
I'm wondering whether a distinction needs to be made between 'prattle' and 'information' in this context.

I agree with John W when he says that he likes to be informed about the pieces/artists we are hearing: that's seems perfectly reasonable to me and what the R3 audience is about. I also agree with Scott when he says that a lot of the commentary is no more than prattle. It often seems to be reduced to the level of  local radio chat-type programmes with invited guests - a lot of chit chat and not enough substance.

I don't know how In Tune deteriorated into this situation, because I'm sure it used to be much better. Amazingly, perhaps, I find Petroc, who I used to find intolerable on ClassicFM, to be much improved and apparently knowledgeable, at least to the point of asking sensible questions.

It should be possible to accommodate both types of listener in the 5-7 slot: a reasonable flow of music and a reasonable quantity of information about who we're listening to.
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« Reply #80 on: 15:52:28, 10-03-2007 »
Martin,

The difficulties Sean has are a) live show b) often the guests are young and foreign, English not first language. Both these issues could be resolved if he could 'rehearse' the conversations, but I think the show is too long for anything like rehearsals and maybe the guests arrive too late to rehearse?

Sean does often c) struggle to make a conversation with the younger guests, and when he has just heard them play something for the first time he often seems unable to say much in the way of an assessment, 'that was nice' sort of thing isn't good, but it might be while they were playing Sean was in deep discussion with his producer about something else?

There are sometimes embarrassing short exchanges but I can't accept Scott's total dismissal of the style of the show. I like to know about young musicians, where they learn, who they listen to, what instruments they are playing. It's no good Sean just saying here is the Rautio Piano Trio playing Ravel's Piano Trio in A minor, 2nd movement. I want to hear some words from the pianist and the string players, and something about the piece they are playing, which I've likely not heard before.


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« Reply #81 on: 16:07:41, 10-03-2007 »
yes, it is because the conversations with performers are spontaneous they sometimes are not interesting. Some people are more interesting to converse with and others are not articulate (especially foreigners) or just don't have personality. This is part of the problem for this show.
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« Reply #82 on: 17:45:49, 10-03-2007 »
I agree with what you say John, especially...

Quote from: John W on 15:52:28, 10-03-2007
There are sometimes embarrassing short exchanges

...some which make me cringe though.
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« Reply #83 on: 13:43:27, 11-03-2007 »
I used to quite enjoy the precursor programme to 'In Tune'  which had a  different presenter (from a different regional studio) each night.  SR I must admit I cannot tolerate - someone suggests he is informative, well I must disagree - I find it tedious and have now given up even sampling the program if he is presenter.  PT is IMO much preferable - much less waffle, usually more intelligent questions though the answers  are not usually followed up (almost as tho he wasn't expecting a certain answer and thus unsure of the path it may lead down).  Non-native english speakers, especially if they have just performed live, are often difficult to interview - a brief background, gig list and then an invitation to perform an encore should be encouraged - after all it is only the inclusion of live performances that raises this 'show' above the crass CFM level.
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« Reply #84 on: 20:57:32, 13-03-2007 »
I could not listen to In Tune today. How is it going?
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« Reply #85 on: 21:04:00, 13-03-2007 »
t-p

It had the singers Simon Keenleyside and Ian Bostridge talking about the revival of Thomas Ades's The Tempest which they are both in. That was the in first hour. The guest in the second hour was the pianist Piotr Anderszwski with Bartok and I think Szymanowski. So it is going ok.
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« Reply #86 on: 21:09:52, 13-03-2007 »
How can I listen to that? It sounds very interesting. I am listening to COTW Liszt on listen again.
There are so many interesting things on all the time. I feel that I am missing so much.
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« Reply #87 on: 21:15:15, 13-03-2007 »
In Tune is available on listen again if you can find the time for it ! Maybe skip the first hour if you are more interested in the piano pieces ?
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« Reply #88 on: 21:18:23, 13-03-2007 »
I am going to attempt. I know nothing about Thomas Ades's The Tempest. People seems not to like it.
Is he a composer that is pushed to the front now? I am curious. He seems to be of concervative variety.
Thank you BobbyZ.
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« Reply #89 on: 00:02:44, 23-03-2007 »
First time this week I managed to catch In Tune. Hearing Sean Rafferty made my blood boil because he so sounds like Gordon Brown, our (wonderful?) Chancellor!  Angry
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