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« Reply #30 on: 19:13:44, 23-02-2007 » |
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B-D NP Mountain In The Clouds; just acquired - it certainly has more punch! Willl listen more.
I have to confess to a stronger liking for funkier stuff than most fusion tho. i'll try and find an example or two. i feel that the Miles' bands were much funkier whatever they were playing.
some way into the first track and it is hard to credit that it is the same guys. i think Universal Syncs is good but driving/forceful/powerful it is not.
have you listened to any of Matt Garrisons albums?
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« Reply #31 on: 00:21:08, 24-02-2007 » |
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I think the 90% is S*** rule applies to fusion, while there is usually something to be enjoyed (or salvaged) in most acoustic jazz, even the flawed stuff, fusion often lives or dies by its concept. I tend to go either for the extremes of abstraction or the funky stuff (which can be not too deep but fun, without being artless). Miles seems a rare person who can combine the two.
Mountain in the clouds -The first track is the punchiest, the later tracks are pointers to what they were doing later but Johnny Mac is still more fired up.
Heard a bit of Garrison but not enough to pass judgement.
I like Leo Smith's Miles tribute stuff but then I really like his standard free jazz as well
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« Reply #32 on: 12:39:42, 24-02-2007 » |
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Not heard Leo Smith.........
I scored several Wallace Roney albums on emusic a year or so back and must say i like them a lot, not the drama of Miles, but interesting and punchy stuff. the man suffers unduly from the 'sounds like miles' canard imho.
i listened to Garrison at first because i thought his father was a god who walked the earth, but i find him rather listenable as well.
After the last post went in search of funk on me itunes and ended up listening to one of Lou Donaldsons slinky sides on Midnight Creeper. i like his bop stuff too.
np Sputnik - Lou Takes Off
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« Reply #35 on: 20:15:28, 26-02-2007 » |
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Likewise - thanks for reminding me about this archive!
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« Reply #36 on: 20:50:13, 03-03-2007 » |
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Brötzmann, Miller, Moholo - The nearer the bone, the sweeter the meat
Cecil Taylor / Tony Oxley - Leaf Palm Hand
Both very different, but equally great free improvisation recordings. I'm just going to have to find some way of listening to everything on FMP, Incus and Intakt.
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« Reply #37 on: 08:42:34, 04-03-2007 » |
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... which was then followed by a Brötzmann / Sabu Toyozumi duo, which must rate as some of the most exciting music I have heard for a long time.
Someone needs to write the history of free jazz & free improvisation.
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« Reply #39 on: 15:26:35, 05-03-2007 » |
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Thanks, Kenny! I did have the 1998 double studio stuff but I was left unimpressed.
Just one more argument as to why LIVE recordings have always been the way to go! Plus some big speakers...
You might also find of interest Rova's Electric Ascension with Nels Cline.
Makes (for me) the inaccessible, accessible.
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« Reply #40 on: 15:31:08, 05-03-2007 » |
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Thanks, calum da jazbo ; I've just ordered it from Amazon UK (£16.50), with free delivery.
It's a shame that the Ben Watson book, which is mentioned in the blurb about the one you linked to, is so partisan - it could have been great.
The list of things I need to listen to seems to grow by the day - Bailey, Oxley, Cecil Taylor, Brotzmann, Globe Unity, Parker ... the discographies go on for ever and I need to target my limited funds! I'm currently looking at the Brotzmann 'Live in Berlin 1971' set, which seems to be very rare on vinyl, and going for silly money on ebay, but is on FMP CD 34/35, and also the CT Feel Trio '2 T's for a lovey T'. They should keep me going for a while, together with the incredible stuff on Church Number Nine that I've never heard of before.
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« Reply #42 on: 18:15:08, 06-03-2007 » |
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... and it is sublime. KK - the blog you linked to also has a download available of a Tony Oxley album (Incus '8'), which I have listened to a bit of and need to listen to more - I think it will repay repeated listening. |
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« Reply #43 on: 11:25:58, 07-03-2007 » |
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yep man: there are a few '69-'71-ish Oxleys kickin' around online at the moment... Ichnos is the best of 'em, I reckon, & "ironically" the only one not to have been recently re-released. I was able to replace my ancient crappy cassette copy of it here: |
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« Reply #44 on: 20:42:17, 07-03-2007 » |
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Thanks again, KK - I followed that link, but it requires a password which I don't have.
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