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« on: 22:18:58, 02-06-2008 » |
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To explore the enormous field that is Jazz? Who are the best representatives (in your opinion) of various styles?
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« Reply #1 on: 22:43:47, 02-06-2008 » |
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Begin by reading the liner notes of the albums you already like, and buying every available album that is mentioned there.  |
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BobbyZ
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« Reply #2 on: 23:21:06, 02-06-2008 » |
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Kitty
Since you liked the Bix programme, it seems sensible to start with some early stuff and tentatively move forward in time until it ceases to be fun. For some reason though, New Orleans Suite by Duke Ellington occured to me because it pays tribute to early times but is by a major mainstream figure and was in fact recorded more or less contemporary with Bitches Brew.
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autoharp
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« Reply #3 on: 00:04:33, 03-06-2008 » |
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My immediate first suggestion would be Ellington, so I'm glad to see that BobbyZ has got there first. Probably not a suggestion that would please the purists since Ellington is definitely a composer but there's enough great improvisation on offer as well. Early to mid 1940s stuff in particular. Available very cheaply in your local bookshop/Woolworths etc.
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« Reply #4 on: 00:26:09, 03-06-2008 » |
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Use Youtube and check out Coltrane, Monk, Bud Powell, Jarrett, Herbie Hancock, Miles Davis, Brubeck, Chet Baker, Art Pepper, Bix, Jelly Roll Morton, Billie Holliday, Charlie Parker, then maybe some of the modern stuff like Andrew Hill and Michael Brecker. Listen to Jazz Library on R3 and take no notice of the lunatics who treat jazz like a religion with a Holy Listening List, nor of the others who think jazz is anything you call jazz just because they think "jazz" is a cool name.
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Kittybriton
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« Reply #5 on: 02:51:30, 03-06-2008 » |
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Thank you all. The suggestion of starting with the earliest names then working forward makes sense - I love the few Miles Davis and Dave Brubeck numbers that I know well. It will be quite an adventure to fill in the gaps.
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George Garnett
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« Reply #6 on: 09:20:19, 03-06-2008 » |
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Don't miss Louis Armstrong along the way, KittyB, a slightly surprising omission so far, particularly some of the earlyish Hot Five stuff. FWIW it was through him and Ellington that I found my way in.
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« Reply #7 on: 12:23:08, 03-06-2008 » |
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Kitty start with a washbord & fiddle & an old tack piano.
Start with George Lewis & His Ragtime Band.
Start with George E Lewis & his trombone & computer.
Cut out the middle-men, ignore the clones & the professionals.
Start with Albert Ayler with the lights out & the volume right up.
Don't listen to anybody's suggestions.
Don't listen
Don't
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Andy D
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« Reply #8 on: 14:04:27, 03-06-2008 » |
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FWIW it was through him and Ellington that I found my way in.
That was presumably through the Ellington Glass Doors, was it George?  http://www.customglassdoors.com/customdoors3/door601.htmlI first got interested in jazz when Bitches Brew was released and I heard a friend's copy - that was 1970 but I'm still groping about in the dark as far as most of it goes. I record and listen to Jazz on 3 most weeks but that's all contemporary, which is what I prefer I must say. |
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George Garnett
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« Reply #9 on: 14:15:15, 03-06-2008 » |
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 I've been looking for some new doors for the entrance to my record library. They look just the thing. Talking of Ellington, do I get any points for having been at the (1971) concert of which this is the CD?  Or just pelted with cornichons.
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« Reply #10 on: 15:19:01, 03-06-2008 » |
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Kitty: Indeed. Don't listen to this post, silent though it may be. The poster has been mistaking cormorant feed for his daily medications for years now. You can observe the effects for yourself. Otherwise, he is a nice guy. Kitty start with a washbord & fiddle & an old tack piano.
Start with George Lewis & His Ragtime Band.
Start with George E Lewis & his trombone & computer.
Cut out the middle-men, ignore the clones & the professionals.
Start with Albert Ayler with the lights out & the volume right up.
Don't listen to anybody's suggestions.
Don't listen
Don't
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Kittybriton
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« Reply #11 on: 15:34:01, 03-06-2008 » |
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[swoon]!
The King has spoken! Surely, I should listen? intently even? (may have to borrow daughter's boombox to go in the tent).
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mr improv
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« Reply #12 on: 17:11:00, 03-06-2008 » |
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jazz record requests isnt a bad place
to get a fair range of differant jazz
work from what you like
branch out from there
or dont branch out from there
dont get sucked in to liking too much
dont buy too much
make your own music instead
listen to proper not populist art forms
stay away from the blue note dross
watch out for the endless meaningless noodlers
stay with the ones that are marked as signficant
avoid the also-rans
start with the beginning of miles davis career
and go trough to the end
that's plenty of activity for a couple of years
dont become a jazz anorak/consumer
chekc out free improv
dont listen to pop music
you'll just get sucked away from the real art music
dont listen to me
listen to the man above with the list
he knows
not me
dont even get started
forget jazz and its consumer product
get an allotment
keep a violin up there
and some oil lamps
stay there dont come away from there
dont believe anyone
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« Reply #13 on: 18:44:19, 03-06-2008 » |
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I'm beginning to love this thread.  |
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autoharp
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« Reply #14 on: 19:42:19, 03-06-2008 » |
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I'm beginning to love this thread. Isn't that a Stephane Grappelly number? |
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