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Author Topic: The Violin and Viola Thread  (Read 10741 times)
Bryn
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« Reply #30 on: 19:36:05, 09-05-2007 »

... on the basis of his Fencepost thingy, or whatever it's called, I shan't be holding my breath.

bws S-S!

For those who have not yet heard.

Just play the video clip. It's mainly in English, (well, sort of Wink).
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« Reply #31 on: 20:51:44, 09-05-2007 »

Mr Says! / Herr Sagt!

I have Jon Rose's "Violin Music for Restaurants" (featuring the legendary Jo 'Doc' Rosenberg) in my CD collection.  I used to regard it as the worst purchase ever.  However, since a certain Ms Lenz alerted me to Jon Rose's website I've gradually warmed to him.  This fence stuff an Bryn's link is helping even more.

So, perhaps stcik with it, and open your mind a little......?

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« Reply #32 on: 20:56:41, 09-05-2007 »

So, perhaps stick with it, and open your mind a little......?

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« Reply #33 on: 21:50:27, 09-05-2007 »

Oh I think I could warm to the guy himself, Tommo. Seems a decent chap, from the clip - imaginative, not at all pompous, articulate, pleasant - and no doubt with a good sense of humour. But these are all attributes possessed by our local taxi-driver, too. The difference being that our local taxi-driver doesn't pretend to be able to write music...

Bryn's clip didn't allow a listen to the sound - at least, not to the sound he wrote that I heard, relating to a Fence. And it's the fellow's sounds that I have a problem with. I haven't time now but I'll look for some link if there is one anywhere.

Pigs may well fly before I feel anything for this sort of stuff: I like many kinds of music, but they must all be at least vaguely recognisable as such.

bws S-S!
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« Reply #34 on: 21:53:09, 09-05-2007 »

I don't know what it is like to relax at the piano.
This is how one well-known keypusher does it.



And isn't she just one cool girl! What an expression! That, and the skirt, has made me go weak at the knees.
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The Emperor suspected they were right. But he dared not stop and so on he walked, more proudly than ever. And his courtiers behind him held high the train... that wasn't there at all.
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« Reply #35 on: 22:00:08, 09-05-2007 »



Bryn's clip didn't allow a listen to the sound - at least, not to the sound he wrote that I heard, relating to a Fence. And it's the fellow's sounds that I have a problem with. I haven't time now but I'll look for some link if there is one anywhere.



Well, let's start with this and then have a look around he site that carries it.
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« Reply #36 on: 22:19:29, 09-05-2007 »

But these are all attributes possessed by our local taxi-driver, too. The difference being that our local taxi-driver doesn't pretend to be able to write music...

Well, Steve Reich and Philip Glass both drove taxis for a living until they made it big internationally. And the only taxi driver I know personally is a five-times-published novelist, so for all I know something similar may be true of the next taxi driver who gives me a lift somewhere.
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« Reply #37 on: 22:01:42, 12-05-2007 »

After reading the last post I will not look at my next taxi drivers differently.
May be he is a musician, or an artist or a novel writer.

Thank you T-I-N for your post. I would never come accross this information on my own.

I remember reading about a composer who was insurance broker in the USA. I forgot his name now.
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« Reply #38 on: 22:11:04, 12-05-2007 »



I remember reading about a composer who was insurance broker in the USA. I forgot his name now.

That was Charles Ives t-p.
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« Reply #39 on: 22:24:39, 12-05-2007 »

I don't know Charles Ive's music. I may be heard something, but not enough to adopt him as one of a composers that I am familiar with. (in Russian language there are two words for you: familiar and formal. I am on formal terms with him).
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« Reply #40 on: 22:38:57, 12-05-2007 »

I don't know Charles Ive's music. I may be heard something, but not enough to adopt him as one of a composers that I am familiar with. (in Russian language there are two words for you: familiar and formal. I am on formal terms with him).
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To keep this just about on topic, the Concord Sonata by Ives has an optional part for viola. One you might want to investigate ?

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_Sonata_No._2_(Ives)
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« Reply #41 on: 23:31:25, 12-05-2007 »

Thank you, BobbyZ. I will have to investigate that. I am planning to order a few pieces of music for piano. This sonata sounds interesting.
I have a very viola player here. She is busy at the moment, but she may have time later. I have Rebeca Clarke sonata for us to play. Her teacher said it is good sonata.
Do you know anything about Ives Second sonata? What kind of music is it?
We can try different things here. We can play it for ourselves, or perhaps include it in a concert to try it out and to introduce people to it.
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« Reply #42 on: 11:31:21, 13-05-2007 »


Do you know anything about Ives Second sonata? What kind of music is it?


It's early 20th century music, quite dissonant so you may want to hear it before thinking of buying the music. I may have mislead you a little because the viola part is only a few minutes out of a 40 minute sonata.
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« Reply #43 on: 11:48:44, 13-05-2007 »

Ive's sonata sounds interesting to me and I am not afraid of dissonances. I was good with XX century dissonances. I lost contact with a very new developments because I was too far from musical world. Ca is not really a Mekka for new things and I had little contacts with musicians there anyway.

I am considering ordering the sonata, but is it very challenging technically. I am kind of an average player with little time. I think I could consider it and play it from the score (not by heart).

40 min sounds like a lot to me. May be I will limit myself with just listening. I do like to see the score too. Sometimes it is interesting to see the notation and how it is done.

Thank you very much for your post. This is for BobbyZ.
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« Reply #44 on: 19:00:13, 13-05-2007 »

t-p, there are several decent recordings of the Concord, Mass., sonata around. My favourites were both recorded by Hamelin. If you want to know more about the background to the work, there is no better source than Ives's own "Essays before a sonata". You can download the full text, free of charge, from here.
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