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Author Topic: The Violin and Viola Thread  (Read 10741 times)
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« Reply #375 on: 14:06:20, 06-04-2008 »

Ho John,

Sorry for the delay.. I've been a bit.. ahem.. busy this past week or so!! Roll Eyes

Slurs...keep trying, it is only like patting your head and rubbing your tummy!! Make sure that you can put your finger down automatically after a short while then you will be able to concentrate on the bowing ( or visa versa!!)

Relax!!!!! I know that is a silly thing to say when you have a piece of wood under your chin, your left hand up by your nose and the other arm is supposed to feel free!! I know.. I know.

One aside on the slurs, I had a little pupil aged about 6/7 I think, who, when playing a basic slur used to slide down in a full splits ( I think I've posted this before... but I am getting old you know!)  Not that I recommed this , it has to be said!

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« Reply #376 on: 01:11:48, 07-04-2008 »

Suggestions for slurs: Visualise the two halves of the bow, each of which will produce one note.  Even mark the middle of the bow - having big colourful smiley-face stickers handy helps (like these => Smiley Smiley Smiley but in many different colours, Staples sell sparkly ones), but a small post-it note or a piece of string will suffice!  If this doesn't help, then try fingering the notes alone, without playing, then similarly while shadow-bowing above the string, before returning to playing normally.  Another way which can help tackle the independence-of-hands is to try slurring many repetitions of notes in one long smooth bow, say A-B-A-B-A-B-A-B, then reducing it to A-B-A-B-A-B, and so on, each time pacing it to last a full bow.
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« Reply #377 on: 17:04:05, 08-04-2008 »



and garage is still
c-c-o-o-l-l-d-d.

Thanks,

John




Have you thought of buying a practice mute John? they fit on the bridge, much heavier than an ordinary mute and the sound stays a bit more natural. You could then play in the house?Huh


I have two, this is the best of them I think


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« Reply #378 on: 10:02:43, 13-04-2008 »

I still have an ebay search on violins and accessories, and have seen those mutes on offer. I'm still tryng to pluck up courage for lesons  Undecided

Anyway on ebay interesting items are always turning up. I see this little old booklet on

tone and muscle development

I wondered what pain and laborious exercises our players here have to endure to maintain certain muscle development?
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« Reply #379 on: 23:13:47, 14-04-2008 »

With reference to your soon to be grandchild... work on 'Baa baa black sheep'... not too difficult and could be fun John!!!

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« Reply #380 on: 23:29:58, 14-04-2008 »

With reference to your soon to be grandchild... work on 'Baa baa black sheep'... not too difficult and could be fun John!!!


Heh, heh, I reckon I could just about play that, could be a useful little lullaby. I would need that mute too  Smiley

For best/easiest fingering, which note for the first Baa ?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #381 on: 09:07:46, 15-04-2008 »

For best/easiest fingering, which note for the first Baa ?  Roll Eyes

A non-violinist writes: surely any open string (except E), since the third Baa would then be the next open string up, and then the whole thing on those two strings in positions I-III. (?)  Tongue
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« Reply #382 on: 14:31:12, 15-04-2008 »

For best/easiest fingering, which note for the first Baa ?  Roll Eyes

A non-violinist writes: surely any open string (except E), since the third Baa would then be the next open string up, and then the whole thing on those two strings in positions I-III. (?)  Tongue
You are quite right Martle, although it is 'normally' played starting on the D string . Take care John on the 'yes sir'... put all three fingers down on the D string at once then take them off one by one!!

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« Reply #383 on: 18:13:22, 15-04-2008 »

hey thanks martle.

martle, A, I was trying this out by ear before I saw A's response, and yes it sounds most satisfying played on the D and A strings. I've wondered before when playing scales about the "all three fingers down on the D string at once then take them off one by one" and wondered if that was being lazy.

In my arrangement for Baa Baa Black Sheep I ask for notes slurred for 'have you any wool', is that lazy?  Cheesy
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« Reply #384 on: 09:39:27, 16-04-2008 »

A violist writes:

Dear Violinists,

I realise you go through the world without a care in the world, playing the chune & signing autographs,  whilst we lowly functionaries are left to play "tiddle-tiddle-tiddle-rest", "chug-chug-chug-chug", or "rest-pah-pah".

However, in those moments when there is not a violist around to help you with things like "Oy, Oistrakh, you've left yer bleedin' fiddle behind in the pub again!",  please take a moment to ensure that you have that four-stringed thingummy and the thing you scrape it with about you when entering or leaving public transport?

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article3746488.ece

Why you need to drag it around with you remains a mystery to the rest of us who leave our instruments in our lockers from one gig to the next Wink
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« Reply #385 on: 22:46:00, 16-04-2008 »

Ok John... now twinkle twinkle... has a great resemblance to Baa baa black sheep ( or green sheep as we were told to sing in the 80s I think it was !!!)
Same thing with the 3 fingers for how I wonder ....


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« Reply #386 on: 22:48:31, 16-04-2008 »

Well Reiner , at least one of my viola playing friends takes his viola around with him... he lost it in a gents' loo  in Germany whilst on tour with a well known orchestra. His viola playing daughter didn't let the matter rest... the number of times 'daddy' had told her to be careful with her valuable viola.

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« Reply #387 on: 22:53:59, 16-04-2008 »

A violist writes:

Dear Violinists,

I realise you go through the world without a care in the world, playing the chune & signing autographs,  whilst we lowly functionaries are left to play "tiddle-tiddle-tiddle-rest", "chug-chug-chug-chug", or "rest-pah-pah".

However, in those moments when there is not a violist around to help you with things like "Oy, Oistrakh, you've left yer bleedin' fiddle behind in the pub again!",  please take a moment to ensure that you have that four-stringed thingummy and the thing you scrape it with about you when entering or leaving public transport?

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article3746488.ece

Why you need to drag it around with you remains a mystery to the rest of us who leave our instruments in our lockers from one gig to the next Wink

Rei, that's brilliant!  (Your post, not the Times link).

Gosh, just imagine the feeling if you were that chap....

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« Reply #388 on: 13:46:31, 17-04-2008 »

I did once manage to leave my trombone on the train.  I'd been down in London for a Prom, and also had a Prommers' Orchestra rehearsal.  Got a latish train back to Peterborough (having had a few drinks after the concert).  Got on the train, but the trombone up on the rack, shortly before we got into Peterborough the guard was having an entertaining time with tow other lads in the carriage who didn't have tickets, got off the train, and was halfway across the bridge when I suddenly realised I didn't have the trombone.  Legged it back and got onto the platform just in time to see the train pulling out.  Reported it immediately and os wsa able to collect it from the lost property office the following day for the princely admin fee of £1.50 I think it was.
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« Reply #389 on: 15:28:22, 25-04-2008 »

Practice.

I wonder, does any other string player... violinist maybe ... find it pretty soul destroying to practise the violin only part of a work such as a sonata with no chance of playing it with a piano part? It is so 'thin'

Just spent a good part of today looking at a Brahms violin sonata and can't really be bothered to sort it out completely.. ..just playing the 'good bits for my own amusement !!!

Anyone else feel the same??

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