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« Reply #60 on: 13:57:26, 13-08-2007 » |
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John Zorn - Ingenious Ejaculation (a 23 second piece  ) Shouldn't it be a piece of varying duration, depending on the "performance"?  |
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« Reply #61 on: 13:58:32, 13-08-2007 » |
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Chris Newman - The reason I am unable to live in my country as a composer is a political one
I don't know him personally, but I would find it hard to imagine that this would be his ONLY reason, but...  You would. Michael Finnissy - We'll get there someday
Fine, but it doesn't tell us where "there" is... Which it has in common with most masterpieces of aspirational thinking, including both the Book of Revelation and popular classics from 'Somewhere over the rainbow' to 'There's a place for us'. |
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The city is a process which always veers away from the form envisaged and desired, ... whose revenge upon its architects and planners undoes every dream of mastery. It is [also] one of the sites where Dasein is assigned the impossible task of putting right what can never be put right. - Rob Lapsley
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« Reply #62 on: 14:22:53, 13-08-2007 » |
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Chris Newman - The reason I am unable to live in my country as a composer is a political one
I don't know him personally, but I would find it hard to imagine that this would be his ONLY reason, but... You would. "I would" what, exactly? I'm not sure what you mean here. I would find it hard to imagine that Mr Newman has no other valid reason for his inability to live in UK as a composer? Or something else? Speaking personally, I find it hard to live in the same country, though not only because I am a composer and not only for a single reason. Michael Finnissy - We'll get there someday
Fine, but it doesn't tell us where "there" is... Which it has in common with most masterpieces of aspirational thinking, including both the Book of Revelation and popular classics from 'Somewhere over the rainbow' to 'There's a place for us'. Indeed so (and very nicely put, too!), although I wasn't suggesting that there is anything inherently wrong with that, of course. Maybe we pull all those examples together as There's a Place for Us Somewhere Over the Rainbow and We'll Get There Someday once its Location has been Revealed to us in a Book; cumbersome in the extreme, of course, but... Maybe I should just go away and write a piece called Time is Now... Best, Alistair |
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« Reply #63 on: 14:26:53, 13-08-2007 » |
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Westerlinck - Look, a bass clarinet in my garden!
Just makes me smile, that one....
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It would make me smile even more broadly if only it were a contrabass clarinet... Best, Alistair |
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« Reply #64 on: 14:57:13, 13-08-2007 » |
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Ingenious Ejaculation (a 23 second piece ) that's "igneous" I think. (ouch) |
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Ingenious Ejaculation (a 23 second piece ) that's "igneous" I think. (ouch) Yeah. I get that sometimes. Too much watercress the day before usually. |
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« Reply #66 on: 15:37:38, 13-08-2007 » |
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Ingenious Ejaculation (a 23 second piece ) that's "igneous" I think. (ouch) Well, what do you know... it is! I've always read that as ingenious. What does that say about me?  Now I understand why the music is what it is. http://www.sendspace.com/file/5supdg Ouch, indeed! GG  |
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« Reply #67 on: 15:38:03, 13-08-2007 » |
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Ingenious Ejaculation (a 23 second piece ) that's "igneous" I think. (ouch) Igneous Fatuous, perhaps... Best, Alistair |
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« Reply #68 on: 15:55:11, 13-08-2007 » |
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Roxy Music - In Every Dream Home a Heartache
good lyrics too Not a bad tune either (at least, it suits BF's voice). I didn't know that Brian Ferneyhough sings on that track. In that case I presume you also didn't know that Bryan Ferry went into the recording studio in late 2002 to lay down the vocal parts for a 16-minute track with the working title Stelae for Failed Time ... |
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The city is a process which always veers away from the form envisaged and desired, ... whose revenge upon its architects and planners undoes every dream of mastery. It is [also] one of the sites where Dasein is assigned the impossible task of putting right what can never be put right. - Rob Lapsley
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« Reply #69 on: 15:56:06, 13-08-2007 » |
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As far as I'm concerned, three is the only ever correct number of dots.
I always thought that if one wished to quote a sentence but leave out the end, one put in one's ellipsis followed by a period, as ". . ..". But maybe that's just me? (Wait, no, no it's not; can't find any English sources offhand though, but plenty of American ones...). |
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« Reply #70 on: 16:08:12, 13-08-2007 » |
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I always thought that if one wished to quote a sentence but leave out the end, one put in one's ellipsis followed by a period, as ". . ..". I don't know what they do over the Atlantic, incre, but as far as British English is concerned you can certainly have a full stop followed by an ellipsis where appropriate, but not an ellipsis followed by a full stop. If you leave out the end of the sentence you leave out its full stop too. Edit: This seems like the politest point I'm likely to find at which to add that your signature's been bothering me for weeks. I don't think you ought to use a full stop if you've not used an initial capital. |
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« Reply #71 on: 16:11:22, 13-08-2007 » |
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I always thought that if one wished to quote a sentence but leave out the end, one put in one's ellipsis followed by a period, as ". . ..". I don't know what they do over the Atlantic, incre, but as far as British English is concerned you can certainly have a full stop followed by an ellipsis where appropriate, but not an ellipsis followed by a full stop. If you leave out the end of the sentence you leave out its full stop too. And one must? Hmm. What about http://www.englit.ed.ac.uk/studying/undergrd/honours/departmentstylesheet.html ? (search for ". . . ."  ) |
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« Reply #72 on: 16:18:46, 13-08-2007 » |
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If you're talking about b. Ellipsis. For ellipsis within a sentence, use three . . . spaced periods, leaving a space before the first period. Quotations that are complete sentences should end with periods even though matter in the original may have been omitted. To indicate ellipsis after the conclusion of a complete sentence [my emphasis], use four periods with no space before the first. . . . then I'd respectfully submit that that agrees with what I said, namely that you can have a full stop followed by an ellipsis (hence 'no space before the first', the first dot being a full stop), but not vice versa. On the other hand, I wouldn't trust a punctuation guide that can come up with the following sentence as an example of good usage: According to Northrop Frye, ‘The word “grace” with all its Renaissance overtones from the graceful courtier of Castiglione to the gracious God of Christianity, is a most important thematic word in Shakespearean comedy.’ (Comma before 'with' might help. ) And Well known authorities cited in your text (e.g., Barthes, Foucault, Freud, Marx) may be referred to similarly. When less well known literary critics are first mentioned in your essay the full name should be given; on subsequent occasions in the same essay the surname only is used. could do with inserting hyphens where 'well-known' is used pre-positively. |
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« Reply #73 on: 16:31:45, 13-08-2007 » |
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In that case I presume you also didn't know that Bryan Ferry went into the recording studio in late 2002 to lay down the vocal parts for a 16-minute track with the working title Stelae for Failed Time ...
wait..... what? |
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« Reply #74 on: 16:47:46, 13-08-2007 » |
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If you're talking about b. Ellipsis. For ellipsis within a sentence, use three . . . spaced periods, leaving a space before the first period. Quotations that are complete sentences should end with periods even though matter in the original may have been omitted. To indicate ellipsis after the conclusion of a complete sentence [my emphasis], use four periods with no space before the first. . . . then I'd respectfully submit that that agrees with what I said As far as I'm concerned, three is the only ever correct number of dots. BUT; apologies. I had misread your second statement on this matter rather terribly. I still do not know if I might not personally make use of a construction such as "Blah blah blah . . . ." in analogy to "Blah blah blah . . . ?" (which does serve a different function from the one with the "?" before the ellipses ). I agree upon reading the rest that it's a bit dodgey indeed. Can't find any trustworty style-guides online, alas! Oh! Thanks for the correction of the signature. SINCEREST apologies  |
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