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« Reply #150 on: 16:03:35, 13-05-2007 »

I do think that it's really bloody easy to pass those exams.  The standard increase is quite significant.  And yeah, they do bugger-all theory, it's pretty bad.

I quite like the academy itself; it's a nice old building : ) They've bought loads of grand pianos over the past few years as well, which is pretty sweet.  Of course, John O'Connor really wants to set up a conservatory...but...I don't know how likely it is to happen, which is a bit of a shame :/
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« Reply #151 on: 16:27:39, 13-05-2007 »

I liked the building too. The pianos are very good. There are different models. John O'Connor is doing a good job. People like him very much. He gave a solo concert here to celebrate 30 years of his debut or something. Everybody loved it.
I did not meet anyone who did not like him yet. And he is a pianist. So I like him.
His concert was not organized by our organization and in fact there was a lot of bitterness when he came here. But it was not his fault at all. He is a nice man. He supports everybody.
I don't think he plays much of contemporary music (at least I did not see it). May be it is because he plays his old pieces. I don't really know.
Other pianists play contemporary music. I don't know if Hugh Tinney plays contemporary music. He is a good pianist. The other one is young pianist that comes here some times and I like him: F. Collins. I think he is a student of John O'Connors.
I am not critical of the academy. I am just saying that they have to fail people and keep the standard up. Otherwise I have student in grade 6 who should be in grade 3 at best. The pieces are too difficult, they have no technique.

They have classes for teachers in Dublin. They are too expensive for many teachers. Also teachers like me have different needs than teachers that are just one grade above their students.
I need help of a different kind. I do need help because it is difficult to be on your own, isolated and no good professional people close by.

In Cork they have a nice place. They just finished a new building. It is not finished yet. I wish I could see it when it is finished.
I don't know much about both of these places. In any case my student did not play that well this year. I still have two students more to go for their exam in Associated Board. I usually get nerveous, but I don't tell them and I don't go with them.

We have a big problem with renting pianos here and it is even difficult to rent one for exams some times. It is so bad really. Some times (often) I feel like crying.
I am trying to hope that things will improve.


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« Reply #152 on: 17:00:06, 13-05-2007 »

Yeah; J.O'C seems to keep up a mainly romantic repertoire (quite fantastically, from what I've heard and the reviews), and I agree that I've never heard anyone say a bad word about him (ok, this isn't *entirely* true, but...he is respected and appreciated by everyone).

Yeah; they had a lot of trouble down in cork trying to get a proper building for their music school; I think they were closed down for a bit, and in a hotel for another bit; it was all quite crazy.  But yeah, it's looking better for them now : )
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« Reply #153 on: 19:46:52, 19-05-2007 »

roslynmuse,
Thank you very very much for your post. Now I am developing a good list of pieces that I am going to order.
Ian gave me a good list of contemporary pieces (modern) of middle level that I either could learn myself or give to my students if the situation presents itself.
And now I am delighted to have your suggestions. I need duet pieces very much. I do have Faure pieces and Stravinsky duet, Ravel Mother Goose, but I need more (for my knowledge as well as for possible use).
I was fascinated with Alkan's piece (the mad woman at the sea) that they played. I never heard anything like that.

I am going to copy everything in my book now. Thank you very much again.

I am going to accompany clarinet student on the 24th (Thursday). We played and he recorded us today. We had a friend listening for a little stress.
I think it can go either way. We can play kind of ok, or we can play badly.
Weber duo is really challenging and by now I know better that I should avoid it. (I probably won't, but I don't think the opportunity will present itself).

Thank you very much for your help. I could not even think that one could get so much help by writing. We don't have anybody here who can help in anyway. The best they can do is to wish us well. So I will have to go on  Thursday with positive mind and hope for the best.
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« Reply #154 on: 18:03:34, 20-05-2007 »

One can find such a curious information on the net now.
Here is a correct hand positions. And on youtube there are lessons for beginners.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNQqe7mGlyQ

I think that the hand position is not bad. Schnabel recommended to hold one's knee to find a good position (natural) for the hand. I like to emphasize finger ends (tips) and to play on soft ends. I like the expression rubber balls now since I heard it here. Wrist has to be free and fingers working from hand joints like one unit. I liked the expression of empty hands and wide wrists. It helps a lot. One have to do everything with a student on 30 min a week and try to make an impact. It is not easy.
I just wanted to share with everybody this youtube connection.
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« Reply #155 on: 22:23:16, 20-05-2007 »

t-p

Duets;
You may well know this already, but I really wouldn't want to be without Debussy's Petite Suite. I find Bizet's Jeux D'Enfants is very attractive too.

As far as Alkan goes I would also add Trente Chants opus 38, I think the opening piece has such a lovely tune (although that might come under the classification 'downright vulgar' Undecided).

Very interested to hear about the Chabrier.
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« Reply #156 on: 22:35:11, 20-05-2007 »

Daniel, t-p
Yes, and what about the simply wonderful Debussy 'En Blanc et Noir' - not a duet, but for two pianos? Enigmatic, sad, war-haunted music, written just before he died.
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« Reply #157 on: 22:43:44, 20-05-2007 »

Thank you Daniel and maratle. I did not know about Debussy 4 hands pieces. I have to put them on the list.
I have played one or two Mozart Soantas for 4 hands and I have seen Beethoven, but I don't have them at home.
To play something for two piano would be good. For now we don't have two pianos here standing side by side. I have to dream about the time when it will be possible to try music for two pianos.
I heard Mozart sonata (don't remember which) for two pianos. I loved it.
Thank you so much for your help. Lettle by little I could build up my library at home. There is no music library here and very few scores are available to borrow even to look at. Music book shop has very limited scores on offer. Mostly they are geared for exam books. Everything has to be ordered (if they feel like it). It is really good that one can buy music scores on the net now.
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« Reply #158 on: 12:42:24, 21-05-2007 »

Someone just linked me to following, saying "Oh, isn't *this* a sexy piano"; I can't help but agree it does look *quite* the tasty piano

http://www.fazioli.com/eng/liminal.php#liminal

And I have to agree.  But, more than this, I wonder why the marco polo piano has *four* pedals?
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« Reply #159 on: 12:52:00, 21-05-2007 »

On the subject of different piano manufacturers I am not very clear too.
I like Petroff pianos. They are not as expensive as others and are good value for money (I thought).

However, people say that they are high maintanance pianos.

There are some not too expensive and even hand made German pianos. I was surprised to see Busendor recently (please forgive my spelling). The model I looked at (upright piano) was very heavy action. I suppose some people might like it.

Some pianists required by their contract to play on certain pianos. What about us on the bottom?
I found that Yamaha are good. I have a Kawai. It is ok, but too bright and the action is too light.
My is a cheap version.
Can anyone say anything about pianos?
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« Reply #160 on: 12:58:58, 21-05-2007 »

choosing a piano in a shop is the ultimate personal indulgence of whims!


the trouble i had last time (about 5 years ago now) was knowing what i wanted... and you need to know otherwise you'll waste valuable hours....

i find it astonishing at the variety of standard of mr. steinway's offerings. there are some really awful ones out there! i once played in a concert at the hungarian embassy, and the piano there felt like putting hands into bowl of treacle. yeuch. chopin Scherzo #2 IIRC, and by the end my RH was really aching...bad...
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« Reply #161 on: 13:11:12, 21-05-2007 »

I have a Kemble and it is an excellent instrument.  I believe they are now made by Yamaha but in the same music shop, they had Yamahas and this felt better to play than they did.  It has a fast action which is what i was looking for (the piano I grew up with is a mid 1940s upright with a tremendously fast action so i wanted something like that).  It also holds it's tuning very well and is fairly loud, more qualities I was looking for as well! It's now 6 years old so it should be mellowing a bit more now.
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« Reply #162 on: 19:53:15, 21-05-2007 »

It is difficult to decide upon what instrument one wants and to be clear how much one wants to spend.
In my case I had to react fast. I had an electric piano that broke. That was suppose to be a short term solution that stayed with me too long.
As it broke I had to react quickly. On top of everything else we had no car at that time so I had to rely on my friends to bring me to the only piano shop in town.
I ended up with Kawai and I am half satisfied with it. I don't think it ment to be played as much as it is in my house.
Also I had to install damp chaser because it is a little too damp for the piano here. My tuner installed it and I don't have problems with my piano now. At one point many of the keys went down and did not go up. I was scared, but the problem was solved easy enough.
I have a dehumidifier working in that room very often.

I don't have any experience with pianos that you mention. I never saw Kemble in my life.
Here they sell now some chinese pianos that I don't like to have for myself.

There are so many new manufacturers. I went to Dublin to help a student to buy a baby grand and it was fun. There was a nice Steinway there for 50 000 euro (used) and I thought it would be good for the city. But that is my wishful thinking.
We have no piano here to play on. One has to hire a piano and the room for a concert. Otherwise there is a Steinway size B (a little smaller than 7 feet) that is 25 years old. This is not play on by anybody, but 2, 3 times a year only when some International pianist comes alone.
Sorry to say it again, but it is a painful spot for me.

I played on Boston piano in Cork and did not like it at all. Here we have a Boston piano in a band room, but no body wants to play it. First of all it is located in a very unattractive room and secondly it is very difficult to play on. The strings are overstrung in such a way that it sounds like if one pushes the right pedal all the time (sort of leaves it on while playing). It is absolutely awful.

Did anybody had similar experience with Boston?
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« Reply #163 on: 08:33:03, 22-05-2007 »

autoharp, you recently mentioned Leo Ornstein elsewhere. The last three tracks on the CD of Chopin player piano recordings were made from his Ampico rolls of The  4th Ballade, the second of the Op. 64 waltzes and the second Op. 15 Nocturne.
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« Reply #164 on: 08:39:20, 22-05-2007 »

Ornstein's a big enthusiasm of mine - Jonathan Powell came and played some at the college at which I teach (along with with Ives, Obukhov, Lourie, Nancarrow, Scriabin + Protopopov - what a programme !) the other day. I've never heard Ornstein's playing however - what's it like ?
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