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richard barrett
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« Reply #135 on: 22:20:30, 09-03-2008 »

it didn't quite make the cliff landing in one piece.

What I meant was it doesn't make the landing at all - the music ends at the exact moment that you know you're out there with no means of support. A very strange feeling indeed.
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« Reply #136 on: 22:31:55, 09-03-2008 »

Ah, gotcha! So, a bit like so many of Tippett's pieces where the metric energy overruns the space he allows it to play out - 3rd piano sonata? Yes, I think that's probably true. What i wanted to happen was a kind of grinding summation of one particular thread of harmonic-motivic discourse throughout the piece, but coming across gesturally as a spark-generating 'break' on many other things, not least the metric obstinacy of the final section.

Ahem, everybody. RB just goes to the heart sometimes. And he's terribly good at it. As you were, as Mort would say if she was here, and not still troughing fish 'n' chips with Ron and tinners.  Grin
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« Reply #137 on: 22:32:22, 09-03-2008 »

Martle. Great piece of music. I thought I could detect some VW there, also Britten and Copland. Not having read the programme at all till and still havnt. I suppose in some ways, i can see that VWs Tuba Cincerto was rushed, but to my ears, being a tuba player myself, its an absolute classic of a piece.

I might ask the Brighton Phil Soc to put on a tuba concerto thats by professor Edward Gregson. Quite a good piece mof music this, not so hurriedly written.
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« Reply #138 on: 22:32:44, 09-03-2008 »

I'm glad a good time was had by all, and that mart's piece went well.

Sorry I didn't show any interest in coming.  I don't finish at church choir (in Central London) until well after 12, and generally enter a state of mild physical collapse on Sunday afternoons anyway, which makes me reluctant to commit to anything for the remainder of the day (especially when I spent the previous Sunday afternoon/evening sightreading Byrd, one to a part, for Choral Evensong at another church).

Oh... I did get a text this afternoon from Janthefan, who thought I might be there and said to say hello sto everybody if I was.  Well, I wasn't - so hello from Jan now Cheesy
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« Reply #139 on: 23:38:00, 09-03-2008 »

Sorry I couldn't be there to join you all this afternoon, but I am listening to the Po3 recording again this evening so I can enjoy martle's piece again!  
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« Reply #140 on: 00:03:51, 10-03-2008 »

"troughing fish and chips", indeed !  Sadly, I had to leave Ron and tinners in the pub studying what looked (and smelt) like a pretty fine menu Cry I got to the station just in time to see the train disappearing down the line Roll Eyes

A great day. It was very exciting to hear Martle's piece performed 'live'. If anything, it provoked an even deeper response in me than on the first hearing (and that was pretty damn good!) Applause applause Martle Kiss Kiss

Lovely to see familiar faces and meet some new ones. It may take me a while to recover from the excitement of seeing Moderator Dough in his kilt Grin That and stroking his sporran!

Perhaps a special mention for the lovely people at the pub who provided us with some yummy nibbles at no charge. Oh, and thanks to the sea for being there. I haven't seen the sea for far too long.

I am happy to have been able to save your dignity, Richard Cheesy Cheesy

Edit. Thanks for the cheese oatcakes Ron Kiss Goddammit, now I've got another addiction to deal with! I nibbled a few on the return journey Grin
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« Reply #141 on: 02:36:37, 10-03-2008 »

ended with a sequence of chords the like of which I've never quite heard before, leaving the entire piece that came before them as if suspended in mid-air like (I hope he won't take this the wrong way) an animated character who's just run over a cliff
Thanks for that. That's added something to my experience of the piece.

Great to hear it again, anyway, and especially in such wonderful company. I got back home around midnight after waving goodbye to the redoubtable Mr Dough at Gatwick an hour before. He is, I have to report, exactly as I imagined him (although I confess the kilt came as something of a surprise Roll Eyes), unlike PW who is actually not like I imagined him at all, but very nice nonetheless. Lovely also to meet BobbyZ (sorry I didn't get chance to say much more than hello, though!) and Mr & Mrs brassbandmaestro. And of course to see Mortle and Martle and Bartlebooth and Mr & Mrs Harple again.

I'm not really tired after such an exciting day, but I suppose I'd better get to bed. I hope Ron is coping on the bench at Gatwick. Reminder to self: You're supposed to be somewhere at 6pm tomorrow (sorry to bother the rest of you with this, but I've already forgotten and re-remembered it several times so if anyone sees me online after around 4 tomorrow could they please tell me to go away!).
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« Reply #142 on: 07:58:39, 10-03-2008 »

  Sorry I missed you Mort!!
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« Reply #143 on: 08:04:12, 10-03-2008 »

Don't know how you managed that BBM,, I was sitting the other side of you next to Richard! Roll Eyes Grin
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« Reply #144 on: 09:24:02, 10-03-2008 »

I have spared many a thought overnight for Moderator Dough, encamped at Gatwick throughout the early hours, then faced with possible delays to his flight because of the storms. I hope he's got back home in one piece! I'm sure he'll let us know...
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« Reply #145 on: 10:10:43, 10-03-2008 »

O right there you were doh homer moment Mort!! Good day, ya?
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« Reply #146 on: 12:20:37, 10-03-2008 »

Just to let you know that I'm safely back at Castle Dough, after a not too unpleasant sojourn on a proper seat at Gatwick, listening to my little emergency mp3 player, which fed me William Schuman's Third Symphony Tippett's Piano Concerto and Midsummer Marriage and most of Britten's MNDto see me through the night. The flight back was hairy, to say the least. Even sitting in the parked plane at the stand made someone sick, it was being buffeted about so much: we flew the whole way with cabin lights off and permanent mandatory seat-belt lights: no hot drinks either, for safety's sake. Massive turbulence soon after take-off, considerably more en route.

I'd just like to add my thanks for the company and the general ambience, not to mention the bizarre experience of meeting several board members, with whom I've had a lot of exchanges, in the flesh: very like seeing characters from your favourite novel on stage or screen for the first time: they behave as you'd expect, and the indefinable essence of their being is what you gain from the printed page, but (dammit) they look different. Very impressed with everyone, nonetheless Wink

I'd agree with r that the RVW Tuba Concerto for all its incidental felicities is not a top-drawer work, but I was glad to encounter it in the flesh. The Planets gains massively from live performance: I hold it in very high regard anyway, and (as martle says) being able to watch the two harpists and timpanists is the only way to understand just how masterly Holst's handling of orchestral forces can be: seeing it really underlines how economical - and practical (martle's word) his scoring is. I don't think it's a secret that I was a huge martle fan long before I ever came to these boards, and some may know that I nattered on blithely about his music for some time before another composer saw fit to inform me that martle actually was....martle. My feeling is that his music is moving into a new phase, and that in Fairground both the surface and the structure show signs of new departures. The performance was considerably tighter than the broadcast one, or even the morning's rehearsal (thanks so much for arranging that, martle), and the tiny revision of having the harmonica players playing an octave higher brings huge benefits. There are some extremely inventive orchestral sounds, and typical little martle hooks which lodge themselves in the memory and refuse to budge. It still seems to me to stand apart from the recent orchestral work I've heard from some of his British contemporaries (and I'm specifically not referring to any other composers present on this board) by being more kaleidoscopic and less monolithic - in some ways more a product of the American rather than British traditions, and I guess since that's American via Boulanger, a French sensitivity as well: I remarked to martle yesterday that I thought I discerned filtered infuences from Varèse and Koechlin.

I've still not quite got my head round the overall structure, and find myself agreeing that another performance by different forces (at a Prom, why not?) is what's needed now. BBCSO/Brabbins or BBCNoW/Jac van Steen would be about right, I think....

And now, since I've not really slept since yesterday morning, I might allow mysel' a wee kip.... I'll post any worthwhile pictures later.
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« Reply #147 on: 12:34:38, 10-03-2008 »

Very good to see you got back safe and sound, Ron. That flight sounds horrendous!  Shocked Shocked
Hope you enjoy your well-deserved ZZZZZZ...  Smiley
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« Reply #148 on: 12:36:50, 10-03-2008 »

Very good to see you got back safe and sound, Ron. That flight sounds horrendous!  Shocked Shocked
Hope you enjoy your well-deserved ZZZZZZ...  Smiley
Seconded!

I've not ventured out yet, even to the bank, post office and supermarket, all of which I need to do. It's horrible out there! Cry
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« Reply #149 on: 12:42:21, 10-03-2008 »

Thirded. Get your bones to bed, man!

tinners, does this mean that you didn't get where you had to be at 6a.m. today? Is was a.m. wasn't it?  It didn't sound quite you, but ... Cheesy  You're right, it's truly horrible out there. I'm hibernating.
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