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Author Topic: Who was the fattest composer of all time?  (Read 3489 times)
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« Reply #15 on: 19:36:53, 05-08-2007 »

Question for Ian: do you think that it simply gentlemanly good manners or lack or proper gender apprecation here that has so far caused there to be not one single mention of a woman composer, or do you think that there have simply been no women composers that could obviously fit this description?

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« Reply #16 on: 21:00:36, 05-08-2007 »

This one is not entirely fair, because the gentleman was confined to a wheel-chair and as the admirable Mr. Lebrecht tells us in fact deplored sloth.


Something leads us to suspect that Reger is in the real lead among the candidates thus far proposed.

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« Reply #17 on: 21:23:49, 05-08-2007 »

Jan Ladislav Dusik (aka "Dussek") similarly gained a lot of weight in the latter part of his life, although there is some suggestion that he fell victim to some kind of glandular disease which caused this.

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« Reply #18 on: 21:37:26, 05-08-2007 »

I would like to nominate the composer of the music for "Children of Soul Mountain".

Hmm?
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« Reply #19 on: 22:59:06, 05-08-2007 »

I'm a bit surprised no one has yet nominated this charmer:

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« Reply #20 on: 23:04:32, 05-08-2007 »

I'm a bit surprised no one has yet nominated this charmer:



Ah yes, and also (though I can't find a pic of him), the following composer, who looks a bit similar:



And this man, who composed quite a bit as well as playing the piano:

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« Reply #21 on: 23:13:11, 05-08-2007 »

And this man, who composed quite a bit as well as playing the piano:


Thank you for drawing attention to him, even in this deeply dubious context (and also for drawing attention to Silas the saint and to a farm where chalk was presumably once made). But you've not yet answered my question above which, for the record, does not of itself actually expect you to name anyone in particular, so you could actually answer it and yet at the same time retain the discretion for which you are well known...

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« Reply #22 on: 10:58:21, 06-08-2007 »

Judith Bingham?

(There go my gentlemanly good manners ...)

She was a student of Hans Keller, apparently. God knows what he taught her.
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« Reply #23 on: 12:55:54, 06-08-2007 »


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« Reply #24 on: 14:00:38, 06-08-2007 »

...She was reputed to be the very FATTEST of female composers before the Renaissance...


Hildegarde of Bingen (no less)!

She wrote lots of songs, apparently (we think) upon the subjects of Orpheus and Cupid, though none has survived. (Her only remaining songs all seem - unaccountably - to be in the Latin tongue.)

Rumour has it that her grave was placed in a shrine measuring 29x20 cubits (though this has never been confirmed).

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« Reply #25 on: 14:57:38, 06-08-2007 »

A while back I was looking for info on Hildegarde. Can anybody point me to any online sites (other than Wikipedia et al?)
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« Reply #26 on: 18:37:36, 06-08-2007 »

Sorry Kitty, can't help with Bingen!

However, fat composers - there's a reference to a pianist/composer in Harold Schonberg's book "The Great Pianists" which I think refers to Reisenhauer that says he basically ate himself to death.  I'll look it up and amend this posting later on.

AMENDMENT - It was Edouard Risler!
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« Reply #27 on: 18:44:34, 06-08-2007 »

A while back I was looking for info on Hildegarde. Can anybody point me to any online sites (other than Wikipedia et al?)
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/med/hildegarde.html

I have several books on Hildegarde but I have never read that she was fat.  Was that poster tongue-in-cheek?  Just because the tomb was that big doesn't mean that she was.  They may have buried all sorts of belongings with her - like with the Pharaohs.
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« Reply #28 on: 18:58:06, 06-08-2007 »

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They may have buried all sorts of belonging with her - like with the Pharaohs.

Or used a large tomb as a mark of respect and honour?  Were nuns permitted belongings anyhow- I thought not*? My cubits-to-metres Ready-Reckoner has fallen down the back of the desk, so I can't readily fathom how big that tomb was in English money...

* I'm a complete ignoramus on monasticism generally; I just remember the issue of personal possessions becomes a sticking-point in the plot of Poulenc's THE CARMELITES...
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« Reply #29 on: 18:59:32, 06-08-2007 »


So I shaved off the beard.

Great scott!  Did he resist at all when you did so?  He's a stoutly-constructed bloke, so you have my utmost respect Wink
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