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« Reply #60 on: 20:13:45, 24-09-2008 » |
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BFerneyhough only wrote one string trio.
FALSE!!!!!String Trio (1995) (ca. 20') Streichtrio (1994) (ca. 2') Repent! |
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« Reply #61 on: 22:11:29, 24-09-2008 » |
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String Trio (1995) (ca. 20')
Streichtrio (1994) (ca. 2')
Ah I did not know that. ... <sits down, thinks for long, then remains on where he was> In the depths of the forest, the ascetic practiced penance with fast-closed eyes.
He intended to deserve paradise.
But the girl who gathers twigs brought him fruits in her skirt, and water from the streams in cups made of leaves.
The days went on, and his penance grew harsher, till the fruits remained untasted, the water untouched: and the girl who gathers twigs was sad.
The Lord of Paradise heard that a man had aspired to be as the Gods. Time after time he had fought the Titans, who were his peers, and kept them out of his kingdom; yet he feared a man whose power was that of suffering.
But he knew the ways of mortals, and he planned a temptation to decoy this creature of dust away from his adventure.
A breath of paradise kissed the limbs of the girl who gathered twigs, and her youth ached with a sudden rapture of beauty, and her thoughts hummed like the bees of a rifled hive.
The time came when the ascetic should leave the forest for a mountain cave, to complete the rigor of his penance.
When he opened his eyes to start on this journey, the girl appeared to him like a verse familiar, yet forgotten, and which an added melody made strange. The ascetic rose from his seat and told her that it was time he left the forest.
'But why rob me of my chance to serve you?' she asked with tears in her eyes.
He sat down again, thought for long, and remained on where he was.
That night remorse kept the girl awake. She began to dread her power and hate her triumph, yet her mind tossed on the waves of turbulent delight.
In the morning she came and sluted the ascetic and asked his blessing, saying she must leave him.
He gazed on her face in silence, then said, 'Go, and may your wish be fulfilled.'
For years he sat alone till his penance was complete.
The Lord of the Immortals came down to tell him that he had won Paradise.
'I no longer need it.' said he.
The God asked him what greater reward he desired.
'I want the girl who gathers twigs.' |
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« Reply #62 on: 22:23:03, 24-09-2008 » |
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String Trio (1995) (ca. 20')
Streichtrio (1994) (ca. 2')
Ah I did not know that. ... [long-winded repentance snipped] You are forgiven. The Streichtrio is a trifle, a little teeny OpenMusic piece written as a birthday tribute I believe for someone or other (Andre Richard?) [googlegooglegoogle] Yes, Andre Richard. The String Trio is a major work that I at first disliked but am coming around to quite admiring. Sorry, where were we? |
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« Reply #63 on: 01:32:33, 25-09-2008 » |
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They're both on the disc, are not they?
We ourselves have just received from amazon.de the Ferneyhough quartets CD, which is great (is there a recording anywhere of the fifth quartet?)
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« Reply #64 on: 02:46:34, 25-09-2008 » |
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REQUEST TO THE MODERATORS:
Since this thread is devoted to "String Quartets - the ultimate in serious music," and since messages 58 59 60 61 and 62 are all off topic, we would ask the moderators to hive them off to a different thread, entitled "Trios" or something of that kind.
It may interest Members to learn that we have now acquired a recording of twelve quartets by Holmboe and intend to report our impressions quite soon. We have given an incomplete overview of Scandinavian composers in the medium, but the Czechs too have produced many and deserve their own summary. Would any one like to say something about the quartets of Czech composers - or indeed of any of the Easterners?
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« Reply #65 on: 02:57:35, 25-09-2008 » |
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I've edited post #59 to make its relevance to the topic clear: it is a comparison of the string trio to the string quartet.
I would submit that Mr Fragment's #58 counts as on-topic for similar reasons.
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The city is a process which always veers away from the form envisaged and desired, ... whose revenge upon its architects and planners undoes every dream of mastery. It is [also] one of the sites where Dasein is assigned the impossible task of putting right what can never be put right. - Rob Lapsley
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« Reply #66 on: 04:59:59, 25-09-2008 » |
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REQUEST TO MODERATORS
Please delete references to "Chaicoffesci" etc from this thread. No such composers exist, and the tedious infantile nature of these posts is deleterious to a serious discussion.
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"I was, for several months, mutely in love with a coloratura soprano, who seemed to me to have wafted straight from Paradise to the stage of the Odessa Opera-House"
- Leon Trotsky, "My Life"
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« Reply #67 on: 05:23:43, 25-09-2008 » |
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One wonders, does not one, whether the oft-discussed-but-never-heard quartets of Sydney Grew, esq., are as monothematic and as monodirectional as he would like this thread to be. It seems to me that the genius of Schubert (for instance) relies a great deal on the aside and on the parenthesis. This is because, unlike Beethoven, Schubert is capable (in the words of the esteemed musicologian Jeremy Denk) of 'patting his head and rubbing his tummy at the same time'. Unfortunately, one does not recall the rating on the septipartite scale attributed Herr Schubert.
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« Reply #68 on: 07:34:55, 25-09-2008 » |
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So yes, composers are still writing string quartets, including Martle, myself and (though corroborative evidence is somewhat thin on the ground) Sydney Grew.
Not to forget member ahinton also. Thank you for drawing attention - although said member has to confess that, to date, he has written only one (1999), though he does also have a (much earlier) little string quintet to his credit (debit?)... |
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« Reply #69 on: 08:23:04, 25-09-2008 » |
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"... little ..."?  The score advises packing sandwiches I believe.  |
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« Reply #70 on: 10:16:07, 25-09-2008 » |
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A question concerning the homogeneity or monochrome quality of the string quartet sound. Can we really take that as read since the quartets of Bartok (which I'd tentatively suggest as the most important and influential cycle since Beethoven's)? Varieties (and sometimes even extremities) of instrumental colour are an inherent part of their fabric, and the whole notion of the musical principles by which writing for a quartet had hitherto proceeded are radically overhauled and even ignored.
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« Reply #71 on: 10:23:10, 25-09-2008 » |
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"Sinfonietta" (five woodwinds, four brass, percussion, piano and string quintet) Four woodwinds, three brass, surely? I'm off-topic ( but the rest of this post isn't!). Oops, yes, four woodwinds, but four brass too - horn, trumpet, trombone, tuba - are normal aren't they? I was possibly confused by thoughts of my own currently in-progress number for such an instrumentation, which does indeed have five woodwinds (including saxophone). But also six strings (two cellos). |
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« Reply #72 on: 10:26:42, 25-09-2008 » |
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A question concerning the homogeneity or monochrome quality of the string quartet sound. Can we really take that as read since the quartets of Bartok (which I'd tentatively suggest as the most important and influential cycle since Beethoven's)? Varieties (and sometimes even extremities) of instrumental colour are an inherent part of their fabric, and the whole notion of the musical principles by which writing for a quartet had hitherto proceeded are radically overhauled and even ignored.
Yes, Ron, I think the "monochrome" quartet sound is since Bartók only one option, and the other direction leads as we know to Ligeti, Crumb, Xenakis and so on. |
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« Reply #73 on: 10:38:36, 25-09-2008 » |
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Hugh Wood's String Quartet No. 2 is rather good (I mean loud).
It starts with a 12-note chord marked fff.
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« Reply #74 on: 12:30:18, 25-09-2008 » |
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"... little ..."? The score advises packing sandwiches I believe. Then you are mistaken in your belief, sir! Having never been one to write unduly copious performance instructions in my scores, I am similarly loath to include any for the listeners either (I assume that it was the listeners to whom you refer, since the idea of incorporating the packing of sandwiches into the performance directions would surely be more bizarre again...) |
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