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oliver sudden
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« Reply #60 on: 20:36:24, 27-09-2008 »
Quote from: martle on 16:07:54, 27-09-2008
Quote from: richard barrett on 15:22:47, 27-09-2008
I always thought it was the horn that was the main problem with wind quintets.
I heard that too, but had far less of a problem on that score than with the flute.
With martle on that one - bassoon and horn have been blending OK for centuries in Harmoniemusik and elsewhere but the flute is a tricky business. On the other hand take it away and you really wouldn't have a top on the ensemble to speak of.

Let's face it - you have a side-blown flute, a double reed, a single reed, another double reed and a brass instrument. All too different to blend perfectly but too similar to be really interesting. A lost cause really.

(And I'm afraid I don't really like the Nielsen at all...)
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« Reply #61 on: 21:39:01, 27-09-2008 »
Quote from: oliver sudden on 20:36:24, 27-09-2008
(And I'm afraid I don't really like the Nielsen at all...)[/size]

Nor me, and you can give me the Arnold Sea Shanties over that any day.
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« Reply #62 on: 22:23:07, 27-09-2008 »
Quote from: Turfan Fragment on 05:24:45, 27-09-2008
I like qt's Hedone. Isn't that a string quintet? It's not repertoire yet, of course, and may never be, but I still do like it.
So do I. I thought it was a sextet though, but I may be wrong.

Didn't Schoenberg write a good wind quintet?
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« Reply #63 on: 22:24:46, 27-09-2008 »
Quote from: time_is_now on 22:23:07, 27-09-2008
Didn't Schoenberg write a good wind quintet?

No.

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« Reply #64 on: 23:42:19, 27-09-2008 »
Quote from: oliver sudden on 20:36:24, 27-09-2008
With martle on that one - bassoon and horn have been blending OK for centuries in Harmoniemusik and elsewhere but the flute is a tricky business. On the other hand take it away and you really wouldn't have a top on the ensemble to speak of.

Do you think that's because of the thick syrupy sound that is encouraged from the modern metal flute?  Bazooka-size bores seem to encourage a playing-style that's strayed many miles from the sound of "traditional" flutes.  Translucent sweetness seems to have gone out of fashion Sad
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« Reply #65 on: 10:16:15, 28-09-2008 »
Quote from: Reiner Torheit on 23:42:19, 27-09-2008
Quote from: oliver sudden on 20:36:24, 27-09-2008
With martle on that one - bassoon and horn have been blending OK for centuries in Harmoniemusik and elsewhere but the flute is a tricky business. On the other hand take it away and you really wouldn't have a top on the ensemble to speak of.

Do you think that's because of the thick syrupy sound that is encouraged from the modern metal flute?  Bazooka-size bores seem to encourage a playing-style that's strayed many miles from the sound of "traditional" flutes.  Translucent sweetness seems to have gone out of fashion Sad
It's true that Dauervibrato is something that's only encouraged on the flute among the instruments in the wind quintet. Without that you'd stand more of a chance. There are a few period-instrument wind quintets - Das Reicha'sche Quintett for example, who have recorded not only Reicha but Danzi. (On the other hand they haven't done Hindemith or Ligeti or Birtwistle (anyone else a fan of Five Distances?) or Holliger for some reason.)

But speaking of period instruments, anyone else know this quintet?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rarissimes-Du-Quintettes-%C2%A1/dp/B00011RUOC

That's a gorgeous disc. They were the quintet for whom Françaix wrote his first.
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