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« on: 14:22:42, 24-09-2008 » |
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1. Quintet for violin, clarinet, horn, cello & piano (well, after all Fibich chose it, did not he?)
2. String Quartet
3. Piano Trio
4. Disappearing Orchestra (thanks to Haydn's farewell)
5. Chorus and Orchestra (We think of those awful amateur choral society 'events')
6. Large Symphony Orchestra (despite its use by that degenerate Chosfteciowischt)
7. Jazz Orchestra (thanks to its use by that degenerate ShochtaKiaowusch)
Tommo
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« Reply #1 on: 14:39:54, 24-09-2008 » |
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We are inclined to place the solo violin in the first rank, recalling the partitas and sonatas of Bach, though we are unsure whether to semantically permit an ensemble to comprise a single member.
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Allegro, ma non tanto
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« Reply #2 on: 14:45:28, 24-09-2008 » |
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Too true, IRF, too true. Anyway, I hope this nonsense goes to show that trying to demonstrate the String Quartet as the 'ultimate' in serious music is just another one of Mr Grew's excercises in objectively rating the subjective. Having said that, I don't want to unrail the good discussion that is going on there about String Quartets without reference to other ensembles. So perhaps you could use this thread for your thoughts on various other ensembles without rating them....... Or rate them if you like  Tommo |
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« Reply #3 on: 14:48:30, 24-09-2008 » |
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We are inclined to place the solo violin in the first rank, recalling the partitas and sonatas of Bach, though we are unsure whether to semantically permit an ensemble to comprise a single member.
What if said single member were to self-reference in the royal 'we', thus pluralising. Would that be permitted, think you? |
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« Reply #4 on: 14:26:39, 25-09-2008 » |
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We are inclined to place the solo violin in the first rank, recalling the partitas and sonatas of Bach, though we are unsure whether to semantically permit an ensemble to comprise a single member.
What if said single member were to self-reference in the royal 'we', thus pluralising. Would that be permitted, think you?  |
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« Reply #5 on: 17:04:31, 25-09-2008 » |
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Could not a place be found in this worthy pantheon for the String Quintet (pace Schubert)?
Dare I also mention Piano-Violin-Viola-Cello-Trumpet-Clarinet-Flute (that fine but neglected work, Hummel's "Military" Septet?)
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« Reply #6 on: 18:12:19, 25-09-2008 » |
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Can we have a thread on ensembles with piano in it.
For example: ensembles for 13 instruments (I think there are arrangements like that).
Ensembles that include mix string and wind instruments and piano.
Then of course there are piano quartets and piano quintets.
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thompson1780
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« Reply #7 on: 01:03:03, 26-09-2008 » |
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t-p, this is the thread for you.
Are you thinking of the original Copland Appalachian Spring?
Tommo
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Turfan Fragment
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« Reply #8 on: 06:23:35, 26-09-2008 » |
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Perhaps t-p has Alban Berg's Chamber Concerto in mind...
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« Reply #9 on: 06:50:26, 26-09-2008 » |
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I had Copland Appalachian Spring in mind. I am supposed to look into the price of the score and I have not done it. (Lost the paper I have written the name on).
People are willing to donate their time, rehearse it and play it.
If we are going to do it indeed play it they may as well play Berg's Chamber Concerto. I have to see what instruments are involved. We don't have a good oboe player.
Thank you thompson 1780 and Turfan Fragment. I wrote the names of the two pieces again.
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« Reply #10 on: 09:21:21, 26-09-2008 » |
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the original Copland Appalachian Spring?
...is a wonderful piece of chamber music and works far better than the orchestral version, I reckon. |
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« Reply #11 on: 09:29:30, 26-09-2008 » |
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Tommo,
What is Quintet for violin, clarinet, horn, cello & piano.
Who is a composer of the piece. I never heard his name.
We have a very nice clarinet player. The horn player is weaker. The cellist who is a Swiss is good. Our horn player is a little out of practice at the moment, but he can play.
We could have a nice concert with different combinations of instruments.
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« Reply #12 on: 09:39:22, 26-09-2008 » |
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The Schubert octet instrumentation (shared by Xenakis' beautiful Anaktoria) is one that could be used more I think.
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« Reply #13 on: 09:45:25, 26-09-2008 » |
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T-p,
Fibich was a Czech composer around the time of Dvorak and Smetana. His most famous work, poeme, is quite salon-music like, but he is a composer worthy of looking at deeper. His quintet is lovely.
If you are looking for works with piano and non-standard combinations of other instruments try...
Stravinsky Octet
Janacek concertino
Dohnanyi sextet
Tommo
Edit: I originally had Stravinsky Nonet. It is really an Octet (isn't it?)
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« Reply #14 on: 09:56:04, 26-09-2008 » |
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There are enough suggestions here for several concerts. I am hoping for one. So far there was an agreement to donate time for Copland.
But we do have young (and not so young) people here who want to play and are capable to play on some level.
It is good for development of the audience too because all sort of relatives come to listen if one of their own is playing. If they like it they will consider going for international artists too.
Our audience for international artists was shrinking, but now with combined efforts of unfortunatly untagonistic fractions it is at least not falling and may be on the increase.
It is better when people in charge love music and not so power (or ambition) hungry. But here I go to a wrong topic again.
I have to find money to buy scores. We have a little bit of money from our trio concert. We can use these money to buy scores.
I don't have to be playing all the time. Therefore Schubert octet combination is good and then they can do Xanakis. Everyone is going to be interested.
Thank you very much for your suggestions.
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