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http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/hearandnow/pip/mu5j9/I'm just about to hit the sack but wanted to say something about the broadcast tonight. I thought that the entire programme was rather good. I'd heard the Tombeau de Messiaen before but only in a student performance with technical difficulties and I rather enjoyed the blurring between piano sound and electronics that you get from disembodied sounds. If I'm honest, the Knussen Prayer Bell Sketch isn't something I'm over-eager to return to. It was nice. I did like the Terry Mann Bells of Paradise as far as it went. I could see immense potential in what he did that could have been taken further, but I did really enjoy it. The two Barrett pieces were both quite engrossing and I'm not sure that I want to say too much tonight while I haven't really digested them. Some amazing clarinet playing of course and I really enjoyed the ensemble playing in fOKT IV. Some really amazing sounds coming from the speakers. 'What is that?' Might post more tomorrow.
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Daniel
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« Reply #1 on: 00:21:02, 07-10-2007 » |
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Rock on Mr. Richard Barrett! I missed the first few seconds or so, but I thought Flechtwerk was sensational. Full of colour and energy, and a really huge, poetic landscape. (Very warm and smiling at times too I thought - sorry if that sounds nauseous, but it did strike me as unusual, in my rather unimpressively average-sized experience of contemporary music). And what extraordinary playing from messrs Sudden and Knoop, incredibly impressive!
I enjoyed fOKT IV too and will look forward to hearing it again, but I engaged with Flechtwerk in a more emotional way, which probably depicts me as an arch-conservative, but there you are, that's how the pokie rumbled for me. Anyway, thanks.
(I only tuned in late enough to hear the last two works, but will visit the rest via LA )
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« Reply #2 on: 00:27:10, 07-10-2007 » |
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I am seriously out of touch with the contemporary music scene these days, but I really enjoyed fOKT IV. It sounded like great fun. And (speaking as a performer, ahem) I'm always thrilled when a composer places that much confidence and allows that much initiative in his performers. I'm sorry I missed it live - it must have been invigorating in person.
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« Reply #3 on: 00:43:26, 07-10-2007 » |
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I am seriously out of touch with the contemporary music scene these days, but I really enjoyed fOKT IV. It sounded like great fun. And (speaking as a performer, ahem) I'm always thrilled when a composer places that much confidence and allows that much initiative in his performers. I'm sorry I missed it live - it must have been invigorating in person.
It was SS...didn't hear it ce soir...but keen to catch it on listen again...a fantastic performance live though...fOKT IV was also a riveting experience. And Rangers lost to Hibs today. The world is a happy place... |
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Colin Holter
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« Reply #4 on: 02:35:25, 07-10-2007 » |
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Miraculously, I managed to tune in accidentally right before it started (time zones!), so I caught the whole thing. A couple of thoughts:
•Having recently had my own piece for piano and tape savaged (constructively) by another composer, I was especially keen to hear Harvey's piece. I thought it was supremely classy, very rich-sounding, appropriately titled, etc., but like a lot of his music I admired it more than I liked it. Why does he love bells so much?
•The Knussen was probably almost exactly what Takemitsu would have written under that title, had he lived, except for the ill-advised moment of exoticism toward the end.
•Flechtwerk. Like Daniel, I felt it admitted a much wider affective spectrum than I'd anticipated. I also found it a bit more traditional, experientially, than I expected–I wonder if anyone else shared that impression. Respect is due also to Mark Knoop and to this Carl Rosman, whoever he is.
•fOKT IV–extremely cool. That stuff is so hard to do. I think RB should write a book about organizing improvisation.
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« Reply #5 on: 10:21:22, 07-10-2007 » |
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If I missed the program, where can I go, if at all, to hear it again?   |
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Bryn
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« Reply #6 on: 11:05:10, 07-10-2007 » |
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Well I'm going to have a moan. I don't know how long the advertised Dench work is, but to drop it and include two works which have previously been broadcast on Radio 3 at least a couple of times before, albeit in different performances, I find regrettable. That said, the performances did sound particularly fine to me.
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« Reply #7 on: 11:09:47, 07-10-2007 » |
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« Reply #8 on: 11:11:15, 07-10-2007 » |
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*glee*
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Andy D
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« Reply #9 on: 11:26:47, 07-10-2007 » |
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As it happens, I decided not to record last night's H&N since I'm accumulating so many unheard recordings - of many programmes, not just H&N. But I heard the RB clarinet piece which I did enjoy, the performances of OS and MK were captivating. Lost interest in the 2nd RB piece though, perhaps it's more gripping live. I heard the Harvey Tombeau de Messiaen at a BCMG concert of live electronic music last Saturday, where it was definitely the best piece in the concert for me. I've also got Philip Mead's recording of it. |
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« Reply #10 on: 11:29:23, 07-10-2007 » |
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the performances of OS and MK were captivating
Strictly speaking that wasn't OS but a chap by the name of Carl Rosman. Obviously a pseudonym taken from Kafka's Amerika and even then it's noteworthy that he couldn't spell it right. But I shall pass on your comments to this Rosman fellow when we're next in contact.  |
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« Reply #11 on: 11:34:30, 07-10-2007 » |
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Strictly speaking that wasn't OS but a chap by the name of Carl Rosman.
Though I'm sure OS is flattered by the comparison and the honest mistake.  |
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« Reply #12 on: 11:35:36, 07-10-2007 » |
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the performances of OS and MK were captivating
Strictly speaking that wasn't OS but a chap by the name of Carl Rosman. Obviously a pseudonym taken from Kafka's Amerika and even then it's noteworthy that he couldn't spell it right. But I shall pass on your comments to this Rosman fellow when we're next in contact. Ooops, my mistake!  |
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George Garnett
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« Reply #13 on: 11:45:51, 07-10-2007 » |
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My response was much as Daniel's, I think, including the feeling that Fletchwork in particular creates a new world but manages to invite you in and persuade you that it was just the work that you had always wanted written. I'm really coming to love that piece.
I'd be interested in any comments the composer/performers might have but I thought the engineers did a pretty good job of taming the venue's acoustic. My only disappointment at the concert was that it took the usual four or five minutes for my head to get adjusted to the pretty gloopy acoustic - and by that time four or five minutes of Fletchwork had been used up. Great to have it available for repeated hearings.
(I peed next to that Carl Rosman just before the performance but thank goodness I seem not to have put him off.)
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« Reply #14 on: 11:49:18, 07-10-2007 » |
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Well I'm going to have a moan. I don't know how long the advertised Dench work is, but to drop it and include two works which have previously been broadcast on Radio 3 at least a couple of times before, albeit in different performances, I find regrettable. That said, the performances did sound particularly fine to me.
The Dench is about 20 minutes long - and will appear in a later Hear + Now. Having attended both concerts at Spitalfields (Barrett + Philip Mead/Terry Mann), it was good to hear it all again - well some of it. The Knussen came over better on the radio than it did in the church - but it still sounded a weak piece to me. The Harvey sounded better in the church of course. Some technical skill and interesting sounds on show here - trouble is that Harvey's music is so often misshapen and soulless, at least for this listener. I had a good time with both Barrett pieces as I did in concert although a significant memory of Flechtwerk involved the sight of Messrs Knoop and Rosman doing their thing. Also thanks to Richard for not being one of those many composers who talks boring rubbish on the radio. Terry Mann's piece was intriguing, if sitting rather uncomfortably within the rest of the programme, even if not all of it was convincing. Trouble was that the first piece was hugely enjoyable live, but not on radio. And parts of the rest seemed rather more impressive tham I remember . . . |
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