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« Reply #60 on: 23:38:57, 11-02-2008 »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gwqEneBKUs
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« Reply #61 on: 15:19:01, 12-02-2008 »

Ha - just saw that video on another site and was just about to post it here!
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« Reply #62 on: 15:06:47, 13-02-2008 »

http://rice2008.moonfruit.com/

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« Reply #63 on: 17:54:44, 17-02-2008 »

I just watched Kosovo making itself independent. There is a huge demonstration in Serbia (Belgrade) against america in front of their embassy.
I am so sad.
I hate what american policies. I know what moron makes it. They are cutting the tree they are sitting on (Russian proverb). I only hope not to live to see the consequences.
Who ever is going to be the president will not be able to make up for past mistakes.
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« Reply #64 on: 19:01:09, 17-02-2008 »

I entirely agree with you, t-p.  And what is worse is the outrageous bias in the media coverage...  the BBC is just the paid PR Dept of the Bush regime these days. 

Did you see which flag was flying over the Presidential building in Pristina?  No, not the Albanian flag... but the Stars & Stripes Sad(  Well, I've already said my piece about America's air bombardment of Serbia earlier, so I have nothing to add Sad

Britain encourages the independence of a "nation" which bombed Police-Stations and Hospitals to achieve this. But of course, if Northern Ireland does the same things seeking independence, they are are terrible terrorists Sad  Utter hypocrisy.
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« Reply #65 on: 08:10:20, 05-03-2008 »

Amid all the Billary/Obama brouhaha,  it seems to have slipped the attention of the UK media that The World's Most Dangerous Madman, Bomb McCain, last night de facto obtained the Republican nomination when his rival, Mike Huckabilly, officially withdrew his hat from the ring.

The race for the Democratic nomination may indeed be a more juicy news story, since both of the Republican contenders had the attraction and charisma of mildewy dishcloth.  However, considering that Bush won his second term handsomely even though the full idiocy of his Afghanistan and Iraq wars (no Osama in the first, no WMD in the second) looked the voter squarely in the eye, there now seems every possibility that the next American President might well be the one who'll take us all to Armageddon.
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« Reply #66 on: 10:00:14, 05-03-2008 »

it seems to have slipped the attention of the UK media

Not quite, but indeed this is much more important than the Democratic nomination, given that it may well be that interests behind the Republican party have so arranged things that (as in 2000 and 2004) their candidate will become president "by any means necesssary".
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« Reply #67 on: 11:41:19, 05-03-2008 »

 I must say that the idea that the election of either of the two Democrats would, in any way, alter the direction of US foreign policy rather touchingly ingenuous
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« Reply #68 on: 11:44:40, 05-03-2008 »

Indeed, Ted. But almost anything is preferable to a continuation of the current reign of monsters.
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« Reply #69 on: 16:40:18, 05-03-2008 »

I must say that the idea that the election of either of the two Democrats would, in any way, alter the direction of US foreign policy rather touchingly ingenuous
Well, it's the first time in my adult voting life (not that I have the vote in America, you understand) that I've felt there is a candidate who might actually be concretely preferable. I'm more used to feeling that the opposition is so weak as to be helpless - not a nice feeling.

If Obama wins then it will say a lot about the ability of the American people to accept a candidate whose opponents have consistently done their level best to play every prejudice card against him. Plus he has promised to close the Guantanamo prison camp, which is surely a start in terms of altering the thrust of the 'war on terror'. He's also, need I remind anyone, the only Presidential candidate not to have voted for the invasion of Iraq in 2003.
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« Reply #70 on: 19:48:27, 05-03-2008 »

He's also, need I remind anyone, the only Presidential candidate not to have voted for the invasion of Iraq in 2003.

Because he didn't have a vote at the time.  Of course, it's true he's now saying that he would been against the war if he had had a vote - and indeed, it's one of the two possibilities that exist.  The majority of Democrats, just like Billary, and John Kerry, voted for the war, to their eternal shame.  Indeed, British journalists like Johann Hari flew the flag for the righteous war in Iraq, but at least Hari had the guts and grace to admit he was wrong later - rather than Billary's attempts to lie about it.  The same, of course, happened in Britain - only the Lib Dems opposed the war.
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« Reply #71 on: 22:49:57, 05-03-2008 »

The same, of course, happened in Britain - only the Lib Dems opposed the war.

They were the only ones who voted against as a party but it shouldn't be forgotten that 121 Labour MPs and 13 Conservatives plus assorted Nationalists also voted against.
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« Reply #72 on: 23:21:46, 05-03-2008 »

They were the only ones who voted against as a party but it shouldn't be forgotten that 121 Labour MPs and 13 Conservatives plus assorted Nationalists also voted against.

It's interesting to speculate how those numbers might have looked had more of the unvarnished truth available at the time been placed at their disposal  Undecided  This is a war in which the "first casualty" died even before they were under starter's orders.  I shall be interested to see what artificially manipulated "victories" are manufactured closer to November (now that McCain is officially W's anointed), and correspondingly how the Broonites manage to spin things whenever Mr Brown decides to follow Mr Medvedev's example and actually try winning an election?
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« Reply #73 on: 02:58:41, 26-04-2008 »

Amusing and perfectly reasonable:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/trailhead/archive/2008/04/24/drop-out-obama.aspx
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« Reply #74 on: 06:00:13, 26-04-2008 »

I dunno, TF...  perhaps I've lost my sense of humour, but I just can't find any amusement in the phrase "President McCain" Sad  The idea of him being more easily beatable in 2012 is contingent on the world reaching that date intact...   a situation that's far from certain with a certifiable madman in charge of the world's most highly-developed nuclear arsenal Sad
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