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Sydney Grew
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« on: 08:55:39, 29-02-2008 » |
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He has convinced us. Do other Members believe him?
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« Reply #1 on: 09:04:38, 29-02-2008 » |
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It would be odd if the owner of Horrids was left.
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ahinton
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« Reply #2 on: 09:21:32, 29-02-2008 » |
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I presume that you refer to Mohamed al-Fayed and, although you do not actually specify what "we" are sure he is "right" about, it seems reasonable to assume that you mean his extensive allegations of conspiracy over the death of Diana, Princess of Wales involving not only the Duke of Edinburgh, Tony Blair, Alistair Darling (no, not me), Lady Sarah McCorquodale, MI5, MI6 and Viscount Tom Cobbley and all, in which case the unequivocal answer from here is that I am sure he is wrong on almost all - and probably all - counts, if only because at least 80% of those he purports to accuse would arguably be incapable of organising a car crash in a brewery.
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Reiner Torheit
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« Reply #3 on: 09:53:48, 29-02-2008 » |
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I am sure Mr Fayedh is wrong. Fortnum & Mason's is a far superior shop.
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« Reply #4 on: 10:07:35, 29-02-2008 » |
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I believe Fayed's case is that Diana was murdered to allow Charles to marry Camilla (which he should have done in the first place, IMO, in which case nobody would have heard of Di.)
Legally Charles was perfectly at liberty to do so. The only reason to murder her was to allow the future Supreme Governor of the C of E to avoid a divorcee marrying with previous partners still alive.
In order to achieve that it would be necessary to murder not only Charles's ex-wife but also Camilla's ex-husband. Mr Fayed has produced no evidence whatever of any plot to dispose of Commander Parker-Bowles.
Without that evidence, the entire case collapses.
I understand that at the time Mr Fayed Junior was engaged to another woman.
I will not be asking Mr Fayed Senior to call me a taxi in future.
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« Reply #5 on: 10:12:24, 29-02-2008 » |
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if only because at least 80% of those he purports to accuse would arguably be incapable of organising a car crash in a brewery.
Hm. Since a brewery appears by many accounts to have been intimately involved in the matter then perhaps Member ahinton is onto something...  |
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« Reply #6 on: 10:50:55, 29-02-2008 » |
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I am sure he is wrong on almost all - and probably all - counts, if only because at least 80% of those he purports to accuse would arguably be incapable of organising a car crash in a brewery.
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John W
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« Reply #7 on: 10:55:06, 29-02-2008 » |
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In my early days of employment I was reknowned for my commitment to the cause of Real Ale and was a popular figure due to my skills in arranging interesting pub crawls and brewery visits. My reputation, however, was destined to be disgraced, in tatters. As part of the 1977 Brewery Visit schedule I included a visit to (the now demolished) Davenport's Brewery in Birmingham. It was a most interesting visit, all the traditional brewing methods were on display, beautiful aromas of hops and yeast, and the extra interest of the Guinness bottling plant where vast tanks of Guinness were fermented and bottled (the label small print actually said Bottled in England), and we also saw the Home Beer plant where a variety of Davenport's own ales were bottled for home consumption and indeed in those days there were still Davenport's lorries delivering crates of ale to homes in the Midlands. Then on to the climax of the visit, the drinking room, where memories were recalled of the special barrels of Burton ales laid on for our busload of keen drinkers at that Staffordshire town's breweries, the capital of English brewing. I can still see the faces of my friends when the lady came in to the Davenport's room with the squeeky-wheeled trolley and presented each of us with a 400ml bottle of Davenport's Top Brew Deluxe, and I had the realisation that from that moment on I would be branded as someone who could not organise a piss-up in a brewery  |
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« Reply #8 on: 13:37:07, 29-02-2008 » |
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He has convinced us. Do other Members believe him?
No, no and again no. At the increasingly futile inquest, he produced not a shred of evidence, but only anti-establishment paranoiac rants. No wonder he could not get a British passport! His insistence that Diana was pregnant at the time of her death flew in the face of all the evidence. What on earth did he say to convince you, Mr Grew? |
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« Reply #9 on: 13:45:25, 29-02-2008 » |
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At the increasingly futile inquest
Exactly so. What exactly is the point of this exercise, which continues day after day at the public expense? First the inquiry by News of the World columnist and former plod "Lord" John Stevens, and now this, none of which has challenged the outcome of the French investigation that this was a case of a drunk driver going too fast. Why can't we as a society leave this one alone? |
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Sydney Grew
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« Reply #10 on: 14:17:27, 29-02-2008 » |
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What on earth did he say to convince you, Mr Grew? He nothing. What convinces us is our memory of the quite startlingly venomous and malevolent tone of a short article which appeared in the Telegraph two weeks before the crash. Having read that we were unsurprised at the news. We looked up the Telegraph's on-line archives just now, but they go back only to 2000. Perhaps though we will at some point manage to unearth for the inspection of Members that curious little article. |
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« Reply #11 on: 14:24:09, 29-02-2008 » |
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I will not be asking Mr Fayed Senior to call me a taxi in future.
DB is a taxi! nah-nah-na-na-naah! |
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« Reply #12 on: 16:37:53, 29-02-2008 » |
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our memory of the quite startlingly venomous and malevolent tone of a short article which appeared in the Telegraph two weeks before the crash.
The Member may also recollect an exceptionally vicious speech made against Princess Diana by Nicholas Soames, the theme of which was her opposition to landmines (an armament he wholeheartedly supported), on the evening before her death. Soames was the Armed Forces Minister at the time (as well as being a close personal friend of Prince Charles). I remember thinking the next morning that he must have felt extremely uncomfortable, since he had pilloried her on television within hours of her death? I personally do not believe any of al-Fayed's story, despite the above. "Two-Dinners" Soames wouldn't have the wit to sharpen a pencil without an aide to do it for him. |
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"I was, for several months, mutely in love with a coloratura soprano, who seemed to me to have wafted straight from Paradise to the stage of the Odessa Opera-House"
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« Reply #13 on: 16:53:05, 29-02-2008 » |
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He has convinced us. Do other Members believe him?
Syd, Are there other things or people that you believe in without evidence? Flying saucers? Alien abductions? Ghosts? Flat earth? Uri Geller spoon-bending? Da Vinci code?  |
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« Reply #14 on: 17:17:14, 29-02-2008 » |
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I believe Fayed's case is that Diana was murdered to allow Charles to marry Camilla (which he should have done in the first place, IMO, in which case nobody would have heard of Di.)
Legally Charles was perfectly at liberty to do so. The only reason to murder her was to allow the future Supreme Governor of the C of E to avoid a divorcee marrying with previous partners still alive.
Er - well, yes, in part, I suppose, but what about Camilla's religious affiliations? - surely another complicating factor, even if not one that might especially be expected to bother an Arch-Cant of Bishopbury who is prepared to flirt with the possibility of abit of Sharia law floating about his national diocese... In order to achieve that it would be necessary to murder not only Charles's ex-wife but also Camilla's ex-husband. Mr Fayed has produced no evidence whatever of any plot to dispose of Commander Parker-Bowles.
Has anyone seen Cdr. Parker-Bowles lately? I accept your point, of course, but was almost about to add "just give him time" until I realised that al-F's probably missed his chance of throwing that additonal accusation into the already vastly overcrowded arena... Without that evidence, the entire case collapses. I will not be asking Mr Fayed Senior to call me a taxi in future.
I hope very much that I will not be asking Mr al-Fayed anything in the future. |
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