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Author Topic: "Do we have any other news?"  (Read 710 times)
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« on: 11:39:39, 12-06-2008 »

Watching BBC News this morning, and the two presenters are waffling on about Wayne Rooney's wedding for several minutes. At the end, the woman asks, "Do we have any other news?" and the man relies "Nothing as important as that, but a senior intelligence offical has left secret documents on a train..."



It really sums up the state of the country, I think  Cry

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« Reply #1 on: 11:47:09, 12-06-2008 »

The BBC News website this morning had three separate pieces about "The Apprentice" on it - as though this is "news"? Sad
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« Reply #2 on: 11:49:25, 12-06-2008 »

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« Reply #3 on: 11:51:04, 12-06-2008 »

And at Gordon Brown's monthly news conference, he was asked if he would have given the winner of the Apprentice a job, since the winner had apparently lied on his CV.
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« Reply #4 on: 12:04:17, 12-06-2008 »

Having a spate of early morning waking recently I have started listening to Farming Today....and have enjoyed its informative takes on future world food production, conservation etc....really impressed by the unpretentious, wide ranging editorial style.... Something TODAY has lost .....as each of the presenters and lobby correspondents charge around stirring the bile ....spraying the bile....wiping the bile .....ringing out the bile....only stopping for a few seconds here and there to demonstrate what jolly folk they are....

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« Reply #5 on: 12:34:42, 12-06-2008 »

Watching BBC News this morning, and the two presenters are waffling on about Wayne Rooney's wedding for several minutes. At the end, the woman asks, "Do we have any other news?" and the man relies "Nothing as important as that, but a senior intelligence offical has left secret documents on a train..."



It really sums up the state of the country, I think  Cry


I'm glad it isn't just me who's getting annoyed with the way BBC breakfast is going.  I did think the "on location" reporter was being fairly tongue in cheek about the whole thing to begin with, but then it went on for so long that I started to worry that he might actually have been really interested.  Christ, between that, the Apprentice features, and if it's not that they're constantly boring us to tears with stuff about Celebrity come dancing with the talent-face dancing stars on ice type nonsense, they've hardly got any room left for the repeated features about X school with a wind turbine or whether pregnant women should drink or not (isn't it terribly confusing? No it's not!!!)

Sorry, this should be in the Grumpy Old Rant thread...   Embarrassed
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« Reply #6 on: 12:37:35, 12-06-2008 »

Actually I did have to smile a few weeks ago when 2 of the key news items for the week were:

Shock!  Prisoners aren't trying to escape!  Noooo!
Shock!  Polish immigrants are going home!  Noooo!

It was an entertaining swing anyway.  Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: 13:12:06, 12-06-2008 »

Aren't we in what journalists call the "silly season" anyway? The trouble is it seems to have grown to the point where there isn't really a "sensible season" any more.
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« Reply #8 on: 13:36:10, 12-06-2008 »

Here is a review of a book that exposes the origin of much of what passes for news:

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/reviews/flat-earth-news-by-nick-davies-782274.html

The term that Davies is quoted as using to describe what the media increasingly report - "pseudo-events" - was not invented by him but by the American sociologist and historian Daniel Boorstin.  But the point remains valid - much of what is reported arises from the combination of vigorous and ubiquitous PR and journalism done on the cheap, carried out by people without moral scruple or intellectual curiosity, unwilling or unable to counter the PR puffs they encounter.  In other words, difficult and challenging events happening in unglamorous environments are pushed aside by the slick and the packaged, which, precisely because they are slick and packaged, become the measure of "what the readers want". 

And that's why the BBC, faced with a political environment in which nobody cares about public service broadcasting, and in which it is under constant pressure to cut costs (except, apparently, on celebrity presenters' salaries), moves increasingly towards a tabloid news agenda.

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« Reply #9 on: 13:53:26, 12-06-2008 »

Daniel Boorstin

It's good to read the name of this great writer on this message board, p-w! Here's an interview with Boorstin from the Charlie Rose show. I found it on Youtube last week:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVF_7TMIfgQ

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« Reply #10 on: 13:54:56, 12-06-2008 »

Semi-serious point: might the fact that former viewers of John Craven's Newsround are now adults somehow affect this situation?  Wink
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« Reply #11 on: 14:13:59, 12-06-2008 »

I have yet to see a lion tamer on tv, pim
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« Reply #12 on: 14:40:59, 12-06-2008 »

I have yet to see a lion tamer on tv, pim

I grew up with Dutch and German television, so every Christmas and Easter I could watch a circus show on TV.



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« Reply #13 on: 14:45:47, 12-06-2008 »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7450627.stm

We have some news now.

I never thought I'd say this, but today David Davis is my hero.
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« Reply #14 on: 14:56:00, 12-06-2008 »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7450627.stm
I never thought I'd say this, but today David Davis is my hero.

The Tories' record on defending civil liberties isn't much to speak of though, is it? I would see this as more of a cynical attention-grabbing stunt (paid for by public money) to take advantage of Gordon Brown and Labour's current difficulties.
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