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Author Topic: The R3 Opera Quiz - After the Supper Interval  (Read 23591 times)
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« Reply #300 on: 21:57:56, 02-04-2008 »

Ah, that would be well-known New Year's Eve tradition of having surprise guests from other operas at the Masked Ball...  this must be Rosalinde singing Klänge der Heimat, nicht war? Wink  And Eisenstein fails to recognise her...

Ah, yes. But the Verdi is probably just as comic, albeit the black variety.  Smiley
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« Reply #301 on: 22:16:48, 02-04-2008 »


Ah, yes. But the Verdi is probably just as comic, albeit the black variety.  Smiley

And the Oscar for Best Performance in a Breeches Role goes to...
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« Reply #302 on: 22:37:37, 02-04-2008 »

Even in Don Carlos, the Verdi opera which now has the reputation as a a Serious Work, not melodramatic tosh (and indeed it isn't) the Queen and Princess Eboli swap masks so Carlos can sing a duet with her thinking she is the Queen.  (He is not very good at judging female tessitura.)  This gives the game away.

And if you have one of those Everything Verdi Possibly Wrote productions, Eboli bursts into the prison disguised as a boy at the head of rioters.


Princess Eboli was a real historical figure, who wore an eyepatch - having apparently lost an eye in a duel.  I await a stage production that reproduces this slice of history.

I remember seeing a Scottish Opera touring production many years ago, in which not only did Don Carlos fail to judge the tessitura, but also failed to notice that Eboli was a good nine inches taller than Elisabetta ...
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« Reply #303 on: 22:46:16, 02-04-2008 »

Indeed, PW, her full name was Ana de Mendoza y de la Cerda and here she is:



Perhaps Eboli will have an eyepatch at this season's new ROH Hytner production?
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« Reply #304 on: 23:28:18, 02-04-2008 »

There are noticably fewer male to female drag moments in opera...

Any Rossinian examples?
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« Reply #305 on: 23:35:52, 02-04-2008 »

More disguises, a go go in Mozart:

the lads in Cosi as Albanians, and Despina (the nastiest bitch in opera, I'm coming to suspect) as doctor (Act 1 finale) and lawyer (Act 2 finale).

Susanna and the Countess in Figaro in Act 4 pass themselves off as each other

Don Giovanni forces Leporello to appear as him, while Don G pretends to be Leporello.

In Rossini :

in Barbiere Almaviva is a drunken soldier in Act 1 finale and a pupil of Don Basilio in Act 2.

Count Ory is pretending to be a hermit in Act 1, and with the male chorus, they pretend to be a party of female pilgrims in Act 2.  This is what IGI was getting at in his last post.  Which appeared while my computer was taking for ever to compose this post.

And I have heard of Wagner:

Wotan as a Wanderer in Siegfried.
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« Reply #306 on: 23:46:55, 02-04-2008 »

Bravo, Don B! That's quite a collection.  Cheesy

Don Giovanni forces Leporello to appear as him, while Don G pretends to be Leporello.

That one can often be quite convincing, especially given the similarities in voice between Leporello and the Don.

Count Ory is pretending to be a hermit in Act 1, and with the male chorus, they pretend to be a party of female pilgrims in Act 2.  This is what IGI was getting at in his last post.  Which appeared while my computer was taking for ever to compose this post.

It was indeed!

Wotan as a Wanderer in Siegfried.

Yes. Quite unbelievable that Mime doesn't work out who he is when he comes to play Twenty Questions in Act I, especially given the eyepatch. Perhaps he should get together with Eboli?!
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« Reply #307 on: 06:57:06, 03-04-2008 »


Any Rossinian examples?

No, but I can chip in with one from Cavalli - Usmano, the Prince Of Egypt, is compelled to disguise himself as Cloridapse's maid in order to get close to his beloved Statira, in STARIRA, PRINCIPESSA DI PERSIA.  This becomes a rare example of a double disguise later (for which I believe extra points might be merited?), when he's forced (now as a maid) to disguise himself as a Turkish Eunuch.  It's while in this latter guise that he unluckily meets Nicarco, who (as he has said several times previously) especially despises eunuchs, and runs him through to the great amusement of the audience.

They didn't really do political correctness in C17th Naples Wink
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« Reply #308 on: 17:32:30, 03-04-2008 »

Any disguises in Mussorgsky? Beethoven? Rossini other than Barbiere and Ory? Early-to-mid career Verdi?
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« Reply #309 on: 21:44:49, 03-04-2008 »

Any disguises in Mussorgsky?

Oh, go on then, but I'll leave the rest to other hands or GG will be saying I've fineigled his points again...  Wink

In SOROCHINSKAYA YARMARKA ("Sorochinsky Fair") Khivrya, the Nora Batty of Novokuznetsk, has a fancy-man...  for all her frying-pan-waving threats to her husband over his drinking habits.  However, since her would-be admirer is the Priest's son, she advises him to come in disguise when visiting her.  He accordingly does so, but when surprised by the early return of her husband, he runs upstairs and jumps out of the casement.  Dressed in his red,  the locals believe it's the much-feared "redjacket", whose ghost is said to haunt the Fair, seeking revenge on the horse-trader who cheated him...  so they all go off into a panic, and it is another Russian all-is-doom-and-disaster situation (but there's a happy ending one Act further down the line).

Oh, you wanted disguises in BORIS, did you....?
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« Reply #310 on: 01:28:40, 04-04-2008 »

Have you had Alidoro disguised as a beggar in La Cenerentola? (I feel there must be some other operatic characters disguised as beggars but I can't think who - Ulisse, I suppose.)
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« Reply #311 on: 07:06:40, 04-04-2008 »

Have you had Alidoro disguised as a beggar in La Cenerentola?

Good. Anything else in Cenerentola?

Reiner, I don't know much of the music to Sorochinsky Fair (other than the Gopak). I'm sure someone else will offer the Boris disguise!
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« Reply #312 on: 07:54:23, 04-04-2008 »


Reiner, I don't know much of the music to Sorochinsky Fair (other than the Gopak). I'm sure someone else will offer the Boris disguise!

Like most of the output of that sad, dissolute genius it was unfinished and lying in scraps when he lost his battle with the bottle.  Enough of it is left to assemble a reasonably complete version, though - the missing parts are usually filled-out by a narrator reading from Gogol's story of the same name.  The story is remarkably similar THE BARTERED BRIDE...  young Gritsko comes courting Parasya, and hits it off splendidly with her father over a drinking-bout or two.  However, Parasya's mother Khivrya will have none of this - she's been at loggerheads with her husband for years over his stop-out ways, and the idea of a son-in-law who appears just the same causes her to throw him out.  Vowing to have revenge, Gritsko puts it about that he's had a better offer elsewhere anyhow... Khivrya is finally forced to apologise to him and welcome him as a son-in-law.  There's a very pretty aria for Parasya when she thinks she's been abandoned,  but it's mezzo-soprano's opera overall, and Khivrya has the lioness's share of the music.  The most difficult piece of reconstruction is that the ending is entirely missing...  its absence is usually covered-over with a reprise of the Drinking Chorus from Act I.

   
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« Reply #313 on: 09:37:08, 04-04-2008 »

Good. Anything else in Cenerentola?

<cudgels brains> Ramiro and Dandini disguised as one another. And, I suppose, Angelina disguised as a rich bitch. (She must have been heavily disguised as Ramiro seems to find her so hard to identify  Undecided )

I imagine if you include people in fancy dress (masks etc) you could probably keep this one going forever.
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« Reply #314 on: 10:54:56, 04-04-2008 »

Leonora is disguised as Fidelio.

There is a thin line between passing yourself off as someone else and actual disguise, which implies a bit of dressing up.

The false Dimitri in Boris is obviously passing himself off as someone he is not, and although he is no longer dressed as a novice monk, I wouldn't really say he was disguised.  But you can disagree.

harpy has reminded me with her talk of Rossini and masked balls, there is a masked ball in Il  turco in Italia where there is lots of confusion over identity.
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