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« Reply #330 on: 07:08:51, 05-04-2008 » |
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Xerxes - as in the ENO transalation - and a quick sneaked look at Kobbe confirms that the character is Elviro. He's in disguise as a flower-seller to deliver a love-letter from Arsamenes to Romilda.
Another one from SERSE (Xerxes) is Amastre, the Princess of a neighbouring kingdom... she's betrothed to Xerxes, but since he has failed to honour the match she arrives in his kingdom in disguise (as a male soldier in Xerxes's army) to find out what's been going on. In the best opera seria traditions she puts off the disguise in the final scene, and Xerxes immediately forgets his imagined attachment to Romilda, and marries Amastre instead.
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« Reply #331 on: 09:46:47, 05-04-2008 » |
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And I overlooked, in Le nozze di Figaro, Susanna's first aria is sung while she is dressing up Cherubino in drag as a girl. He subsequently appears IIRC in the Act 3 finale. (Male to female drag only seems to crop up when the singer is female.)
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« Reply #332 on: 09:57:57, 05-04-2008 » |
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Have we had Gilda yet? We were asked to assess the success or failure of the disguise: hers leads to her own murder so it must be the most wretched of "successes" [Sparafucile has seen her in Act I Sc ii, as he tells Rigoletto, so he certainly knows her undisguised appearance - it's a moot point whether he recognises her in disguise and kills her anyhow, or whether he's fooled by the disguise] Linda Richardson as Gilda, Alan Opie as Rigoletto - (photo-link from Ruth's 2003 reviews)
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« Reply #333 on: 10:35:13, 05-04-2008 » |
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It strikes me that the disguises used by operatic characters fall into three groups: good (Octavian's is almost too good! Belfiore, Gilda, Ford); useless (Leonora in Forza is recognised pretty quickly by Padre Guardiano, Carlo, disguised as a student, is recognised immediately by his sister, Alvaro, as Father Raphael is an easy one for Carlo, although his earlier disguise works OK until Carlo sneaks into his case); and the 'surely that can't work' category (Surely the sisters in Cosi should recognise their boyfriends? Surely Renato/ Ankarstroem should recognise his wife, who's disguised by a veil. Surely Mime should have remembered the eye-patched intruder who made his way with Loge into Nibelheim?)
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« Reply #334 on: 10:50:46, 05-04-2008 » |
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(Surely the sisters in Cosi should recognise their boyfriends? Surely Renato/ Ankarstroem should recognise his wife, who's disguised by a veil. Surely Mime should have remembered the eye-patched intruder who made his way with Loge into Nibelheim?)
Agreed on COSI, I simply can't suspend my disbelief to that level, and it impinges on my ability to enjoy the piece - and agreed about BALLO too. However, licht-machtige Wotan might realistically have recourse to a better costumier than Escapade in Camden High Street, and if we can accept that he turned Alberich into a toad two operas ago then his own changeling powers don't really strike me as beyond veracity [It's a "tell" of Mime's character that he does stupid things against his own interest because of his own blockheadedness - he fails to recognise the Wanderer or to bother interesting himself in the identity of this threatening stranger... he blurts out to Siegfried how much he hates him, even though he still needs Siegfried temporarily to slay Fafner.] Of course, in many RING cycles he might very well not recognise the Wanderer because a different bass-baritone has taken over the role by the third opera .
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« Reply #335 on: 11:54:28, 05-04-2008 » |
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The sun's nearly over the yardarm, so time for a drink and something a bit different! Identify these five drinking songs, who is singing (the character, although you may want to spot the singer too) and either what purpose it has in the plot or what else is happening besides an innocent little drink... Drinking song 1Drinking song 2Drinking song 3Drinking song 4Drinking song 5Then, name any other drinking songs/ brindisi. Cheers!
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« Reply #336 on: 12:09:51, 05-04-2008 » |
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Song 1 is horrible Kaspar in Der Freischutz. I hope I haven't got it permanently on itunes now.
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« Reply #337 on: 12:11:49, 05-04-2008 » |
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Song 2 is Iago getting Cassio pissed in Act 1 of Otello. And a wonderful piece too.
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« Reply #338 on: 12:12:43, 05-04-2008 » |
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Song 1 is horrible Kaspar in Der Freischutz. I hope I haven't got it permanently on itunes now.
Yes, it is Kaspar. Why the drinking song? Yes to Iago too! iTunes - it depends on whether you clicked on 'open file' or 'save file'. If in doubt, right click on it and then delete (as I did for Syd's snatch test).
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« Reply #339 on: 12:15:10, 05-04-2008 » |
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Kaspar is trying to persuade Max to get magic bullets. Presumably he is breaking down resistance by getting the impressionable lad pissed. (I scorn to look it up.)
Song 3 - Don't recognise. I could make a guess, but hey, let someone else have some fun.
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« Reply #340 on: 12:16:31, 05-04-2008 » |
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The sun's nearly over the yardarm, so time for a drink A drinking pedant (and thoroughly interested lurker on this thread, I hasten to add) writes: I think the correct colonial term for midday drinking is 'the sound of the noon-day gun'. The sun passes over the yardarm at 6pm, doesn't it?
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« Reply #341 on: 12:18:50, 05-04-2008 » |
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Very possibly, martle. You can tell I'm not too well up on my drinking terminology!! Don B, yes - Kaspar is softening Max up before convincing him he's shot down an eagle with a magic bullet!
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« Reply #342 on: 12:19:08, 05-04-2008 » |
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Song 4 is Vivat Bacchus from the Mozart I haven't heard for decades, which is never called The Abduction from the Harem, or in Victorian parlance Il Seraglio.
The comic servant is trying to get the bass overseer, Osmin, pissed (against his religion as I now realise) to make the getaway easier.
Thank you martle. I was confused about references to yard arms when I had barely finished my elevenses.
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« Reply #343 on: 12:20:51, 05-04-2008 » |
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Another one spotted, DB, with Pedrillo and Osmin from Die Entführung aus dem Serail.
Recognise any of the singers so far?
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« Reply #344 on: 12:27:34, 05-04-2008 » |
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Bless you, IGI, Song 5 is the brindisi from Lucrezia Borgia, which I mentioned above.
A young chum of the hero (mezzo breeches part) encourages everyone to toss of ftheir bumpers, unaware that the hero's mum has characteristically laced the stuff with something nasty.
She's a bit put out to find she has just poisoned her son and offers him an antidote (for the second time in the course of the plot, I think) but he high-mindedly refuses, disenchanted to find the mystery woman he has adored is A his mum B a serial poisoner and C sung by Dame Joan Sutherland.
I was going to mention it if you didn't. I have a recording of the brindisi sung by of all singers Dame Clara Butt. Makes a change from Land of Hope and Glory and Where Corals Lie.
There is a drinking song for a poisoned drink in a work scheduled next season for ROH. Any suggestions?
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