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« Reply #315 on: 12:34:18, 04-04-2008 » |
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Well spotted about the Turco in Italia disguises as well as the Cenerentola ones.
Now, Verdi. A nobleman abroad masquerading as his king? A daughter disguised as a man? A knight disguised to attend an enemy banquet? A bandit who appears at his enemy's castle disguised as a pilgrim?
I'm sure there are more...
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« Reply #316 on: 13:59:59, 04-04-2008 » |
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The bandit disguised as a pilgrim is Ernani.
The daughter disguised as a man is, I presume, Gilda in the last act of Rigoletto.
The nobleman disguised as a king is Belfiore in Un Giorno di Regno, I'm sure, though I haven't seen it for a long time (it's on at Iford this summer if anybody is interested!)
The knight disguised to attend an enemy banquet - well, I'm going to kick myself when someone gets it, but I can't bring it to mind at the moment.
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« Reply #317 on: 14:10:06, 04-04-2008 » |
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OK, I'm not going to kick myself after all, as it's one of the few Verdi operas I have never seen. A little Googling on the subject reveals that it is Corrado's disguise as the Dervish in Il corsaro to which our outstanding Verdi question refers
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« Reply #318 on: 14:19:07, 04-04-2008 » |
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The false Dimitri in Boris is obviously passing himself off as someone he is not, and although he is no longer dressed as a novice monk, I wouldn't really say he was disguised. But you can disagree.
There are bonus points for anyone who can get more mileage out of the Dmitrij story? <--- aching clue hanging in the air
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« Reply #319 on: 14:51:55, 04-04-2008 » |
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That would be Dvorak... very fine Prom a few years back!
(edited for stupid typo!)
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« Reply #320 on: 14:59:59, 04-04-2008 » |
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"Who'll boi moi flowers fresh plucked from moi garden?"
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"I was, for several months, mutely in love with a coloratura soprano, who seemed to me to have wafted straight from Paradise to the stage of the Odessa Opera-House" - Leon Trotsky, "My Life"
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« Reply #321 on: 17:16:30, 04-04-2008 » |
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OK, I'm not going to kick myself after all, as it's one of the few Verdi operas I have never seen. A little Googling on the subject reveals that it is Corrado's disguise as the Dervish in Il corsaro to which our outstanding Verdi question refers Now, I'd forgotten about Corrado - well done - but that leaves the knight ( or the other knight) at the enemy banquet. It surely won't take you long to hunt him down?!
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« Reply #322 on: 17:41:35, 04-04-2008 » |
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"Who'll boi moi flowers fresh plucked from moi garden?"
Xerxes - as in the ENO transalation - and a quick sneaked look at Kobbe confirms that the character is Elviro. He's in disguise as a flower-seller to deliver a love-letter from Arsamenes to Romilda. How potent silly accents are ...
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At every one of these [classical] concerts in England you will find rows of weary people who are there, not because they really like classical music, but because they think they ought to like it. (Shaw, Don Juan in Hell)
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perfect wagnerite
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« Reply #323 on: 17:48:05, 04-04-2008 » |
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OK, I'm not going to kick myself after all, as it's one of the few Verdi operas I have never seen. A little Googling on the subject reveals that it is Corrado's disguise as the Dervish in Il corsaro to which our outstanding Verdi question refers Now, I'd forgotten about Corrado - well done - but that leaves the knight ( or the other knight) at the enemy banquet. It surely won't take you long to hunt him down?! Could this be Attila? Ezio in disguise at Attila's banquet, but thwarted by Odabella who wants to kill Attila herself, IIRC?
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At every one of these [classical] concerts in England you will find rows of weary people who are there, not because they really like classical music, but because they think they ought to like it. (Shaw, Don Juan in Hell)
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« Reply #324 on: 17:57:47, 04-04-2008 » |
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It's not Ezio, who is Attila's guest at the banquet, but Foresto who is in disguise. Disguises in Donizetti? I can think of one in a popular work, plus another in an opera which had a rare outing in an appropriate location earlier this year?
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« Reply #325 on: 21:14:11, 04-04-2008 » |
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Disguises in Donizetti? ... plus another in an opera which had a rare outing in an appropriate location earlier this year? It's gotta be Emilia in Liverpoolia, hasn't it? Not a work I know, but your clue is uncharacteristically unambiguous. Other Donizetti: Norina in Don Pasquale pretends to be a demure convent educated girl before she leads pompous old Pasquale a merry dance. Not a disguise, exactly, but more mistaken identity. In Lucrezia Borgia the hero makes the mistake of thinking Lucrezia is a fascinating woman (she's his mum) until in a particularly catchy ensemble all his chums (including the mezzo) let him know she is the Renaissance mistress of lethal injection (on which we are still waiting the Supreme Court ruling, including three of my correspondents on death row in Texas.)
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« Reply #326 on: 22:08:22, 04-04-2008 » |
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Now, I'd forgotten about Corrado - well done - but that leaves the knight (or the other knight) at the enemy banquet. It surely won't take you long to hunt him down?!
I sometimes dip into this thread but haven't yet posted here...is the knight Sir John Falstaff, disguised as the black huntsman? But "at the enemy banquet"? So it can't be Falstaff - unless you're referring to that masked ball at midnight in the forest and all those fairies are his enemies? Oh, you wrote hun not hunt in bold so now that confirms I'm completely wrong but I'll post this anyway - I might get 1/10 for A Good Effort!
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« Reply #327 on: 22:38:53, 04-04-2008 » |
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Certainly a good effort, MJ, but Falstaff was one of the first answers given, along with the other characters who don disguises in the same opera. 'Hun' was indeed the clue, leading pw to Verdi's 9th opera, Attila.
Don B, some good Donizetti responses there. Claudio di Liverpool, Emilia's father, who has disappeared abroad, believed dead, turns up in disguise as a bearded sailor.
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« Reply #328 on: 22:45:47, 04-04-2008 » |
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Oh dear that'll teach me not to post before reading all the previous replies - sorry!
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« Reply #329 on: 22:56:58, 04-04-2008 » |
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Another Mozart disguise, revealed in the title, is in La finta giardiniera ("The Phoney Gardener"). Marchioness Violante Onesti is disguised as the gardener Sandrina and confronts Belfiore, her former lover.
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