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Yep. I was going to say "I don't suppose that's the missing ring, too?" but knew it wouldn't be  |
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« Reply #916 on: 23:27:27, 28-08-2008 » |
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Just as an aside... I was once in a pub in Glasgow after a Scottish Opera performance, talking to various Scottish Opera staff members and guest artists. I was discussing with a singer acquaintance the fact that she'd just done an audition for Opera Holland Park's upcoming production of Fidelio, and I took the opportunity to ask what that year's Opera Holland Park shows were going to be. Upon hearing that one of the upcoming operas was Stiffelio, another member of the group (a director) told my singer friend that it was the porn version of Fidelio. And she believed him  |
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« Reply #917 on: 23:36:05, 28-08-2008 » |
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Who loses a ring? A spoon? A key?
Three different characters from three different operas, btw. Upon hearing that one of the upcoming operas was Stiffelio, another member of the group (a director) told my singer friend that it was the porn version of Fidelio. And she believed him Surely sopranos couldn't be so naïve?! |
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« Reply #918 on: 23:42:13, 28-08-2008 » |
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The spoon is, I'm certain, one of those operas I really want to see but have never had the chance- The Thieving Magpie. And the key's probably La boheme - though it's not really lost for long  Oooh, and for a hat-trick... might we be talking Pelleas et Melisande for the lost ring? Do you ever get the impression we're just talking amongst ourselves? |
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« Reply #919 on: 23:44:51, 28-08-2008 » |
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Yes, indeed, where it turns out to have been pinched, along with a fork and a coin, by the magpie. I think this is a charming opera and I'm surprised it's not staged often at all.
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« Reply #920 on: 23:46:15, 28-08-2008 » |
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And the key's probably La boheme - though it's not really lost for long Correct. Almost certainly one of those 'deliberately lost' items, methinks. |
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« Reply #921 on: 23:47:47, 28-08-2008 » |
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Oooh, you cross-posted with my latest edit, which was to say that I think I got the ring, too - Pelleas? |
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« Reply #922 on: 23:52:46, 28-08-2008 » |
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Oooh, and for a hat-trick... might we be talking Pelleas et Melisande for the lost ring? Yes, and a right load of trouble it causes for her. Stupid thing to do really, play with your wedding ring over a well, especially after specifically being told, "Don't play with it like that, over such deep water". I half expect Pelléas to turn round and say, "I told you so!" afterwards. Do you ever get the impression we're just talking amongst ourselves? Often, but I expect Reiner will come up with a hatful of suggestions neither of us would ever have thought of!! (And here he is now, everyone....Cue Reiner!) |
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« Reply #923 on: 00:16:42, 29-08-2008 » |
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Master, you uncork my bottle and I appear to do thy bidding  Lost rings... Barbarina in Marriage of Fig... and I claim double points for working in THE MEDIUM as usual. ..Monica´s lullaby - which closes Act One - is the ghastly tale of a girl who drowns while ´searching for her lover's ring´ in a river. (this is probably the best-known number from the opera,'Oh, Black Swan"). I can't add any other lost spoons in opera... although there's quite a good one in an Ivor Cutler monologue ("Hey, Jimmy! Is this yer spoon?!" etc) |
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Master, you uncork my bottle and I appear to do thy bidding Now there's a line I hope never to hear again Knew you'd come up with the goods, Reiner! Though it's a pin Barbarina's lost, not a ring |
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« Reply #925 on: 00:24:58, 29-08-2008 » |
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Mark Elder & David Pountney lost a Ring at the London Colisem in 1984... I don't think it was ever found |
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« Reply #926 on: 05:06:14, 29-08-2008 » |
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Very good.
Who is handed some lost papers which, if he'd only stopped to look at them, would have revealed his wife's adultery?
Who loses a ring? A spoon? A key?
Darn, I was going to say Melisande. But someone already got it. <offers cookie> Who offers a cookie to someone else? Okay I don't know. |
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At every one of these [classical] concerts in England you will find rows of weary people who are there, not because they really like classical music, but because they think they ought to like it. (Shaw, Don Juan in Hell)
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« Reply #928 on: 07:48:23, 29-08-2008 » |
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Very good.
Who is handed some lost papers which, if he'd only stopped to look at them, would have revealed his wife's adultery?
Who loses a ring? A spoon? A key?
Darn, I was going to say Melisande. But someone already got it. <offers cookie> Who offers a cookie to someone else? Okay I don't know. From memory (I'm not scrabbling around in Kobbe at this time of the morning) Minnie offers Jack Rance a "biscotto" in La Fanciulla del West. |
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« Reply #929 on: 09:36:21, 29-08-2008 » |
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Presumably there are quite a few female operatic characters who, during the course of the drama, lose their cherries?
And where Farinelli comes in all of this is anyone's guess.
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