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« Reply #930 on: 10:19:06, 29-08-2008 » |
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Herod appears to have lost a ring at the start of the final scene of Salome About the same time as Jokanaan loses something rather more critical  ? |
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« Reply #931 on: 10:21:19, 29-08-2008 » |
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I googled a bit yesterday trying to find people who showed cowardice at some stage in an opera, so that I could say "XXX lost his bottle". I didn't find any, but maybe you experts could?
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« Reply #932 on: 10:26:18, 29-08-2008 » |
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"XXX lost his bottle". I didn't find any, but maybe you experts could?
Radames at the end of the Nile Act in Aida? I mean, one of Egypt's leading soldiers and he just meekly hands himself over?  OK, having lost things, what about items (inanimate objects, not people) which are found, which have a significant bearing on the plot? I'm thinking of examples such as Scarpia discovering the fan with the Attavanti crest in Act I of Tosca. |
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« Reply #933 on: 10:49:55, 29-08-2008 » |
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And where Farinelli comes in all of this is anyone's guess.
When John Beard, the tenor, began taking the heroic male roles in Handel's pieces (viz SEMELE) that the castrati previously took, a wag at the British Journal commented that "this gentleman had not previously been cut out to be a singer"  |
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« Reply #934 on: 11:06:37, 29-08-2008 » |
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OK, having lost things, what about items (inanimate objects, not people) which are found, which have a significant bearing on the plot? I'm thinking of examples such as Scarpia discovering the fan with the Attavanti crest in Act I of Tosca.
Marguerite in Faust finds a mysterious casket on her doorstep... O Dieu! Que de bijoux!... and is all too quickly lost Pyramus in Britten's play-within-an-opera finds Thisbe's mantle on the ground, mistakenly thinks the lion's got her, and promptly kills himself. |
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« Reply #935 on: 11:27:48, 29-08-2008 » |
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That spoon is found in the magpie's nest just before Ninetta is due to be executed.
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« Reply #936 on: 11:54:53, 29-08-2008 » |
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In The Turn of the Screw, when the Governess asks where Miles learnt Malo, he claims to have "found" it.
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« Reply #937 on: 11:56:10, 29-08-2008 » |
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Very good.
Who is handed some lost papers which, if he'd only stopped to look at them, would have revealed his wife's adultery?
Who loses a ring? A spoon? A key?
Darn, I was going to say Melisande. But someone already got it. <offers cookie> Who offers a cookie to someone else? Okay I don't know. From memory (I'm not scrabbling around in Kobbe at this time of the morning) Minnie offers Jack Rance a "biscotto" in La Fanciulla del West. Oh dear, never try and use the brain before mid-morning. The recipient of the "biscotto alla crema" as of course Dick Johnson. |
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At every one of these [classical] concerts in England you will find rows of weary people who are there, not because they really like classical music, but because they think they ought to like it. (Shaw, Don Juan in Hell)
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« Reply #938 on: 20:36:07, 30-08-2008 » |
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We've had objects lost and found, and characters lost. What about characters who hide? Should be plenty of takers for this one...
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« Reply #939 on: 20:50:10, 30-08-2008 » |
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Cherubino hides in the Countess's closet, and mysteriously becomes Susanna by the time the Count opens the door.
Mimi hides while Marcello confronts Rodolfo about his treatment of her... and hears more than she was supposed to.
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« Reply #940 on: 20:55:22, 30-08-2008 » |
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Like a Pavlovian Dog, I hear my bell ringing... I'll pitch in straight away with my regular Menotti contribution  Toby creeps back into the house in THE MEDIUM, but when he knocks over an empty bottle of whisky he hides behind the curtains in the hope of not being seen by Flora, whom he's woken. However, she sees the curtain moving ("Come out! Come out! If you are human, come out!"), and believes it's the Poltergeist. She shoots him dead, and his body falls out on the floor. Y'see - I told ya it was the last verismo opera |
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« Reply #941 on: 21:27:17, 30-08-2008 » |
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A few for starters:
Again, Fanciulla del West - Dick Johnson hiding in Minnie's cabin when Rance arrives.
Cherubino hiding in the chair in Act 1 of Figaro, only to be uncovered by the Count
Tonio hides in Pagliacci, and overhears Silvio and Nedda planning their elopement
Zerlina hides rather half-heartedly when Don Giovanni announces the forthcoming revels that form the finale of Act 1 of the opera; Leporello tries to hide under the table when the Statue rolls up for supper.
Lady Macbeth's doctor and lady in waiting hide and watch her sleep-walking.
Otello hides behind a pillar while Iago and Cassio joke about Bianca, overhearing just enough to convince himself that they are talking about Desdemona.
Falstaff hides in a laundry-basket
If the question includes characters in hiding rather than just hiding, then Leonora in the monastery in Forza is the obvious candidate - shacked up in a hermit's cell only to find her lover and her brother slugging it out her doorstep. There's no peace for the wicked ...
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« Reply #942 on: 21:37:44, 30-08-2008 » |
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Cherubino hiding in the chair in Act 1 of Figaro, only to be uncovered by the Count And isn't his discovery a delicious moment! Falstaff hides in a laundry-basket Bryn did a headlong leap into the basket in the recent WNO production, which was hilarious! Who hides in a tomb? Who hides amongst the trees outside a convent? Who hides in a Chapel? Who doesn’t hide in an operatic version of a play, where this character’s concealment does not prevent his death? |
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« Reply #943 on: 21:40:24, 30-08-2008 » |
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Who hides in a tomb?
Who hides amongst the trees outside a convent?
Who hides in a Chapel?
Who doesn’t hide in an operatic version of a play, where this character’s concealment does not prevent his death?
In the tomb: Aida In the trees outside the convent: is that Di Luna in Trovatore? In the chapel: Angelotti In the non-existent opera scene: Polonius in Thomas's Hamlet, who I was JUST in the middle of composing a post about! |
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« Reply #944 on: 21:41:40, 30-08-2008 » |
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Amando (Spermando) and Amanda (Clitoria) hide in a tomb to have sex in Ligeti's Le Grand Macbre only to emerge after the end of the world (possibly).
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