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Question: Which of Handel's works would you most like to see staged for his 250th in 2009?  (Voting closed: 11:16:56, 13-06-2007)
Belshazzar - 2 (9.5%)
Athalia - 1 (4.8%)
Hercules - 2 (9.5%)
Semele - 8 (38.1%)
Saul - 2 (9.5%)
Samson - 3 (14.3%)
Theodora - 3 (14.3%)
Mozart's Messiah - 0 (0%)
Susanna - 0 (0%)
Jeptha - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 11

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« Reply #15 on: 16:08:48, 14-05-2007 »
Thank you, Parsifal.  I've added Jeptha.  Unfortunately, I cannot change the poll so we can change our votes.

Deborah was his second Biblical oratorio after Esther.  I believe it was made up of even more shameless borrowings than usual for Mr H.  I am sure I have seen it recorded by Hyperion, presumably with the enthusiastic Robert King.

I can find no reference to Gideon or Nabal in the index of Jonathan Keates Handel: the man and his music.  Any clues?
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« Reply #16 on: 16:14:42, 14-05-2007 »
Thanks, Basilio.

NABAL and GIDEON were 'compiled' by John Christopher Smith (1712-95), using music largely taken from various Handelian genres. While hearing them on Naxos, I recognized some of my favourites sung to lyrics different from the ones I'm used to!
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« Reply #17 on: 16:29:49, 14-05-2007 »
Thanks, p

Due to the generosity of Hackney Council, (those pioneers of organic recyling) since Saturday I now have free access to Grove's Music Online.

Nabal and Gideon are not under the Grove entry for Handel, but for J C Smith.  Smith also created Tobit, Judith, Jephosophat and Rebecca (Soprano aria "Last night I dreamed I was at Mandalay")
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« Reply #18 on: 20:57:13, 14-05-2007 »
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Can we later have a poll on Handel operas we wish to hear 'unstaged'?

I've seen one or two performed in theatres, in extravagant costumes and scenery, but they still hadn't been staged Wink
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« Reply #19 on: 10:25:47, 17-05-2007 »
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« Reply #20 on: 15:19:53, 17-05-2007 »
DB, I wanted to ask you about organic recycling? ...
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« Reply #21 on: 16:45:51, 17-05-2007 »
tin - since you ask

Hackney Council provide us with a special blue plastic box in which we place our organic waste - potato peelings, pea pods, coffee grounds, tea leaves, etc - and they collect it every week.  Our dustbin is almost empty.  I realize we are a bit quaint in peeling potatoes, shucking peas, using tea leaves etc, but it suits us fine.  I take the bottles down to the council block,s bottle bank at the end of the road, as placing every wine bottle we empty in a week in the green plastic crate provided would be unduly embarrassing.  Wink Wink
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« Reply #22 on: 16:54:33, 17-05-2007 »
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as placing every wine bottle we empty in a week in the green plastic crate provided would be unduly embarrassing

But yet more embarassing is my stage, when the wine is delivered in a green plastic crate Wink
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« Reply #23 on: 17:17:25, 17-05-2007 »
Now I'm even more confused, DB! Do you mean you found a Grove online subscription in a green plastic crate??! Shocked

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« Reply #24 on: 17:41:29, 17-05-2007 »
Sorry for confusion.

Hackney Council are (in part) a Good Thing because

A they take organic waste for recycling seperately from household rubbish

B As a member of Hackney Library, I can access Grove Music Online (the Oxford DND, OED, Encyclopedia Britannica and others) in full for free in the comfort of my own home, just entering my Library card number and off we go.  To buy the volumes or CD Roms would cost thousands.

Hope that clears it up.

I wouldn't care to comment on the efficiency of other services of the London Borough of Hackney, but I would like  to give credit where it is due.
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« Reply #25 on: 18:06:07, 29-05-2007 »
Handel's Samson at 6.30 on 30 June in the Nereid Gallery at the British Museum

performed by the British Library and British Museum Singers, Canonbury Chamber Choir and Whitecross Orchestra under Anthony Milledge.  Tickets £12 from bmbls07@yahoo.co.uk

I'm not sure I will be there, and it may well be the sort of amateur oratorio singing that gives Reiner the willies, but the Nereid Gallery is a smarter venue than you average village hall.  Smiley Smiley
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« Reply #26 on: 23:52:49, 29-05-2007 »
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it may well be the sort of amateur oratorio singing that gives Reiner the willies

Hehehe, but oddly enough I worked with Tony Milledge donkey's years ago, and he is a thorough and reliable rehearser... I would imagine it will be a very good piece of work,  considering the resources available.  He is well-versed in period performing practice and this might be a cut above the average "choral society" performance Smiley

Sadly I shall be on another continent by then and unable to attend in person.
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« Reply #27 on: 11:12:36, 12-06-2007 »
Only one more day to go before the poll closes!
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Handel's Samson at 6.30 on 30 June in the Nereid Gallery at the British Museum

performed by the British Library and British Museum Singers, Canonbury Chamber Choir and Whitecross Orchestra under Anthony Milledge.  Tickets £12 from bmbls07@yahoo.co.uk

I'm not sure I will be there, and it may well be the sort of amateur oratorio singing that gives Reiner the willies, but the Nereid Gallery is a smarter venue than you average village hall.  Smiley Smiley
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« Reply #29 on: 15:48:19, 12-06-2007 »
No, Kitty, can't say I do.  Tell us more.
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