Mary Chambers
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« Reply #30 on: 14:54:31, 04-06-2007 » |
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Don't worry about it, George. There are several places in librettos where I have equally unasked for reactions, but I usually manage to ignore them during actual performances.
I've read one or two comments recently which are pretty nasty about Piper's libretto for D In V - but I agree with you. I can't imagine a harder job than making a libretto out of either that or Turn of the Screw, yet somehow she manages, without fussy language, to retain the essence and let the music elaborate on it.
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Don Basilio
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« Reply #31 on: 12:17:32, 05-06-2007 » |
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I'll be at the ENO on Thursday, Upper Circle, specs, iron grey hair and moustache and probably colourful tie.
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To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven. A time to weep, and a time to laugh: a time to mourn, and a time to dance
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Lord Byron
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« Reply #32 on: 12:21:47, 05-06-2007 » |
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I will be there saturday,stalls, with a member of the royal ballet.
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Mary Chambers
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« Reply #33 on: 15:32:58, 06-06-2007 » |
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I got there last night. Terrific evening. I don't think I have ever seen a more visually beautiful opera production - I was particularly struck by the scene on the boat to Venice, and the end - but all of it, really. As everyone has said, the lighting director was the biggest star. I'm always a bit worried about what will be done to favourite operas of mine, but I thought this was an excellent production throughout. That said, I didn't think Bostridge was quite right as Aschenbach. He sang it most beautifully, as I knew he would, but in the end he just is a good ten years too young. The scene in the barber's chair where he resorts to cosmetics to make himself look young lost a whole dimension - he didn't look much different, though his Elderly Fop impersonation made the point, I suppose. In fact I thought the whole opera lost a dimension because of this. I felt he overacted a bit, too, though this may have been what was intended. I was much more convinced by Philip Langridge when I heard him do it last year, and that was only a concert performance.
Peter Coleman-Wright was good in many ways, but I didn't think his diction was quite good enough - and I know the words pretty well. I liked Tadzio, and the choreography was genuinely boyish. All the small parts went well. And the orchestra (another big star in this) played Britten's opalescent score beautifully. I arrived early enough to hear vibraphone practice, which was a treat.
Although I felt I was listening in a reasonably detached way, when I came out of the theatre afterwards I felt as if I was still in the opera. The international crowds outside the Coliseum were the crowds in Venice, the corridors of my hotel were the Venice alleyways, and my hotel room, which just happened to have long white curtains, was the Hotel des Bains.
(A couple of unworthy thoughts: were the beautifully dressed Edwardian visitors to Venice just a little reminiscent of Cecil Beaton's Ascot scene in My Fair Lady? And was that very little girl - how old was she, for goodness' sake? - very like Gretl, the youngest child in the film of The Sound of Music? This only occurred to me at the curtain call when the little children lined up. I rather expected a performance of "So long, farewell".)
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George Garnett
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« Reply #34 on: 15:47:10, 06-06-2007 » |
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Delighted to hear you had a rewarding evening, Mary and hope you enjoy it Don B and Lord B both.
Just chipping in briefly to say that Front Row (R4) is having another bite at the subject this evening (Wed 6th) with a follow up interview with Ian Bostridge. As far as I can gather it's a sort of "How's it going so far and what have you learnt from audience reactions?" piece.
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Chichivache
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The artiste formerly known as Gabrielle d’Estrées
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« Reply #35 on: 16:26:02, 06-06-2007 » |
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Thanks Mary and everyone for comments & thoughts. Roll on next Weds!!
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Don Basilio
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« Reply #36 on: 11:37:07, 08-06-2007 » |
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I went last night. It is a very beautiful stage picture. I don't want to say too much, as I am well aware I do not know and love it like many of you, but for what its worth:
A I wish we had had surtitles. Although the words are fairly simple, the ideas are complex and word setting is paramount. The diction was good, but not 100%.
B In the small role of the English clerk, Jonathan Gunthorpe's diction was impressive. I caught 99% of the words, which greatly added to the orchestra's depiction of the spread of plague. What a theatrical stroke of Britten's to contrast the prosaic character of the words against this natural force.
C The final stage direction was not followed, as far as I can see, ie: At a clear beckon from Tadzio, Aschenbach slumps in his chair.. I would have thought this makes a difference to how the whole work is seen. Instead the (moderately beautiful) Tadzio continued to walk off into the (stunningly beautiful) sunset.
D I wish I had listened again to the recording before I went. I'll know next time.
I hope you enjoy it, Lord B, but I have a feeling it might not be quite your cup of tea.
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« Reply #37 on: 11:45:14, 08-06-2007 » |
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I am not going, i always thought it a bit iffy and with so many good stuff coming up i decided to pocket the cash for another day.
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Mary Chambers
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« Reply #38 on: 12:00:43, 08-06-2007 » |
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Don Basilio, I agree with your points A, B and C. The words are just so important in this. I was waiting for the beckon - I think there was some sort of gesture, and I forgave them because the end was so visually stunning, and the music there I think is some of Britten's loveliest ever. Tadzio I thought had the right degree of beauty, though he certainly didn't look like the description in the book. (No golden ringlets!) Britten would have approved of this one, I think - he didn't go for (I mean that in the nicest sense) girly boys.
(I had another unworthy thought - there was a bit in one of Aschenbach's recits where the piano sounded almost exactly like the Dudley Moore Britten parody.)
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Don Basilio
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« Reply #39 on: 12:21:36, 08-06-2007 » |
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Mary, please bear with my moderately irreverent D in V story.
In the year of the premiere, I persuaded my parents to have a long weekend in East Anglia so I could visit all those wonderful medieval churches I had never seen. On the inevitable wet afternoon my family found itself in a tea shoppe in Aldeborough, with an endearingly small poster for "Death in Venice". (The poster could have been for the Choral Society doing Zadok the Priest, rather than the last masterpiece of one of the century's greatest operatic composers, but that was rather sweet.)
My dear, late father noticed the poster. He loved Gilbert and Sullivan and records of romantic symphonies and piano concerti, but he could not read or play music. He knew Britten's reputation, although apart from my school's performance of Rejoice in the Lamb, I don't suppose he had ever experienced his music.
"O" says Dad with a twinkle in his eye, seeing the poster for Death in Venice," what's that all about, then? Do they find her body strangled with a silk stocking in the bottom of a gondola?"
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To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven. A time to weep, and a time to laugh: a time to mourn, and a time to dance
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Lord Byron
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« Reply #40 on: 12:23:25, 08-06-2007 » |
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Lucky to have musical parents...
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George Garnett
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« Reply #41 on: 13:07:18, 08-06-2007 » |
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The final stage direction was not followed, as far as I can see, ie: At a clear beckon from Tadzio, Aschenbach slumps in his chair.. As far as I could see too, Don B. There certainly wasn't a clear beckon, if one at all, and I took this as a deliberate decision by the director to overrule the stage direction. I suppose there is a bit of a dilemma when staging something which in the Mann reads "It seemed to him the pale and lovely Summoner out there smiled at him, and beckoned..." (my underlining). If it was indeed only in Aschenbach's mind, do you show the beckon and make it literal (in which case you lose the suggestion that it might be illusory) or do you not show it (and thereby make it well nigh impossible for the audience, unless familiar with the libretto, to pick up what Aschenbach 'thinks' he is seeing). I can't say it worried me at the time because it was so beautiful and intense, and the music and the stage picture more or less made me feel my blood was being drained away at that point anyway, but I agree it was a significant decision on the part of the director. If I am remembering rightly she also rather underplayed the extent to which Tadzio might be leading Aschenbach on when he follows the family. This Tadzio was clearly aware of Aschenbach's interest in him (Aschenbach's "So, my little beauty, you notice when you're noticed") but seemed to have little intention of playing up to it. I didn't actually buy the programme (sorry, ENO). If anyone else did, Deborah Warner doesn't say anything there about this by any chance, does she?
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Don Basilio
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« Reply #42 on: 13:24:52, 08-06-2007 » |
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I did buy a proggy, George, and Ms Warner did not write an article. I have not read every word (future engagements include Third Flemish Deputy in Trondheim etc etc) but I did not notice any relevant comment on the detail in question.
I loved the long white net curtains. It reminded me so much of so many Italian hotels I have stayed in. I must get back there this year.
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Mary Chambers
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« Reply #43 on: 17:16:38, 08-06-2007 » |
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"O" says Dad with a twinkle in his eye, seeing the poster for Death in Venice," what's that all about, then? Do they find her body strangled with a silk stocking in the bottom of a gondola?"
It's only a matter of time before a director comes up with this interpretation . Thank heavens for Deborah Warner.
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jonathan swain
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« Reply #44 on: 00:32:48, 09-06-2007 » |
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Greetings all. “I loved the long white net curtains” … me too Don Basilio - always on the move - gentle zephyrs, or the Sirocco perhaps? Tied in (?) with the billowing dry ice elsewhere. Visually, the production has left indelible memories (I went last Tuesday). My problem was with Bostridge. Mary - you’ve said it all, but I’d just add that I found it very difficult to sympathise with IB’s Aschenbach - never a problem with Pears at the ROH in the 1970s (went on two separate nights back then). I think lack of dignity in IB’s Aschenbach is part of the problem. It also occurred to me that he often looked as if he’d been taking acting lessons from Basil Fawlty (sorry!). On a purely technical level, his musing seemed to involve quite a lot of looking down while singing, so that for those of us higher up in the Coli, quite a few words didn’t come across. (I missed the surtitles too). Still - he did manage to be convincingly unhinged (and physically impaired) towards the close. Even if the change was sudden, rather than gradual. ….. Wonderful to be reminded of the full force of some of the orchestral writing (something a recording can’t do - quite), the drums in the Dionysiac dance especially….. R3 are recording it this Saturday night for a future broadcast (not sure when)…
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