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Author Topic: The Minotaur  (Read 5977 times)
Stanley Stewart
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« Reply #150 on: 14:25:23, 27-05-2008 »

 Thank you, IGI.    I'm already steeped in David Harsent's libretto and will listen and record on R3, on Saturday.   The TV transmission, is mettle more attractive, as I've had a few overseas e-mails asking about this - a 10 point bold, red, annotation in my diary for 7 June!
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Stanley Stewart
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« Reply #151 on: 22:27:16, 31-05-2008 »

An absolutely riveting evening listening to "The Minotaur" on R3 and I'm so glad that I got a copy of the libretto in good time.   The tapestry of sound has ruled out any alternative for the rest of the night, particularly Wagner.   I've recorded the broadcast and will listen again before next week's TV transmission.   It's an awesome work; quite enthralling on several levels.  Even the interval feature held my attention.   My only caveat was a fit of the giggles when John Tomlinson roared like a wounded bull as it always reminded me of Oliver Hardy's call of distress before one of his calamitous pratfalls.  Otherwise deeply moved by his suffering.
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« Reply #152 on: 23:59:49, 31-05-2008 »

I really agree with what you say, Stanley.

Despite having had to miss the first fifty minutes, when I did eventually sit down to listen to it I was immediately transfixed. I got the feeling I had walked straight through the front door into this piece and left everything else behind.
The physical feeling of the orchestration was so persuasive and felt so true, and to me it created a genuine world where the psychology of the piece seemed to be in every note. I loved the way how constantly troubled everything felt, and how the doomed outcome seemed so unstoppable and was constantly boiling away in the music somewhere- it always felt like it was going somewhere. The emotional lives and complexities of the characters (which mattered very much) seemed so deeply woven into the music, it felt like the blood for the music and characters was all pumping from the same heart.

I look forward very much to hearing the whole thing properly next weekend.
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« Reply #153 on: 19:05:17, 01-06-2008 »

An absolutely riveting evening listening to "The Minotaur" on R3 ...I've recorded the broadcast and will listen again before next week's TV transmission.   

Lucky I hadn't noticed the TV slot, Stanley, as I'd probably have given the R3 broadcast a miss; which would have been a shame as I, too, enjoyed every minute. 

I've now made a note to make sure I record the TV broadcast.  I trust they are showing the performance and not just a documentary about Tomlinson, Rice, Pappano etc choosing their outfits or engaging in their several hobbies!
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« Reply #154 on: 19:10:36, 01-06-2008 »

An absolutely riveting evening listening to "The Minotaur" on R3 and I'm so glad that I got a copy of the libretto in good time.   

Yes, it was good to hear this again, after attending in April. I'm looking forward to seeing it on BBC2 next week as well. I'm sure you'll enjoy it even more, Stanley, with the chance to see the production as well as hear it.
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« Reply #155 on: 19:28:08, 01-06-2008 »

I heard some on my way back from the gathering yesterday, but despite forgetting to set the back-up machine before leaving, was relieved to fine on returning that the main recorder had done its job. I'm still hearing the piece for the first time, as it's having to be in sections as I copy and edit. Even so, it's overwhelming - a stretching of what I'd consider as a language that I'd warm to immediately - such assured virtuosity, with an internal logic that attracts rather than confuses.

(Incidentally, I find myself catching echoes of King Priam, and even a strange one from Billy Budd: the Minotaur's first incoherent vocal entry is very reminiscent of Billy's stammer, not just vocally, but also in the orchestral forces and even their individual figures....)
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« Reply #156 on: 19:58:31, 01-06-2008 »

... and even a strange one from Billy Budd: the Minotaur's first incoherent vocal entry is very reminiscent of Billy's stammer, not just vocally, but also in the orchestral forces and even their individual figures....)

Thank you for saying that, Ron! So maybe I'm not going mad after all. I didn't even begin to make any such connection when I heard it in the theatre but hearing it last night, the orchestral opening, Ariadne alone on the shore, we suddenly seemed to be on The Indomitable becalmed in the mist. Weird. And while I normally try to sit heavily on various 'associations' my brain insists on coming up with when I'm listening to a new piece, I could only conclude after a while that this one must surely have been deliberate?

Am more and more excited by this piece. Big, major stuff. The only disappointment last night was that (listening via Freeview) the physicality of the dynamic range had been greatly diminished which damagingly undermined the important structural contrasts between barbarity and lyricism. It may perhaps have been better on FM?
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Stanley Stewart
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« Reply #157 on: 20:13:20, 01-06-2008 »

 Yes, HtoHe, I've checked the schedule for BBC 2, on Sat, 7 June.   The full production will be shown with "Have I Got News For Your" sandwiched between Parts 1 and 2!

I really was overwhelmed, last night, and I doubt whether I have lost a sense of actual time since I saw the ENO Ring Cycle in the early 70s.   Actual time in the sense of being aware of arriving at work and doing my job - and being unusually quiet for a few days - as the performance time, every other day, took precedence.   Uncanny.    

Yes, IGI, I can understand what you mean by being even more engaged by the visual production which will add yet another dimension to the tapestry.   Memories, too, of the disturbing raw intensity of Jon Vickers in Act 3 of "Tristan" at Covent Garden, accompanied John Tomlinson's torments.

Fortuitously, a few days ago, I got a new stained glass transfer of Isaak Walton's 'Study To Be Quiet'  - vivid memories of a visit to Winchester Cathedral  some years ago - and it made me feel quite serene with a wee dram, late last night.   The previous day, I phoned the Secretary of the Cathedral Bookshop who was surprised when I mentioned that the postcard, sent by an anonymous well-wisher to Terry Waite,  had helped him preserve his sanity during his long imprisonment in a Beirut basement.

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« Reply #158 on: 20:17:35, 01-06-2008 »

Fortuitously, a few days ago, I got a new stained glass transfer of Isaak Walton's 'Study To Be Quiet'  - vivid memories of a visit to Winchester Cathedral  some years ago - and it made me feel quite serene with a wee dram, late last night.   The previous day, I phoned the Secretary of the Cathedral Bookshop who was surprised when I mentioned that the postcard, sent by an anonymous well-wisher to Terry Waite,  had helped him preserve his sanity during his long imprisonment in a Beirut basement.



I was in the Cathedral only yesterday evening, Stanley, for a concert featuring Kiri Te Kanawa who was helping out the College Music Club. She sang a short song recital in the first half and was one of the soloists in the Brahms German Requiem in the second.
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Stanley Stewart
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« Reply #159 on: 20:32:53, 01-06-2008 »

  Ha!   Thank you, IGI.

          "A double blessing is a double grace"   (Laertes)

   I'm sure the repro will give MB posters a lot of pleasure.   The stained glass transfer was
   an unexpected surprise for me as I contacted the Cathedral Bookshop to replenish my supply of
   postcards.   Really delighted by your speedy gesture.    Smiley Smiley Smiley
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« Reply #160 on: 20:44:29, 01-06-2008 »

     I'm sure the repro will give MB posters a lot of pleasure. 

It does, it does. But I'm now going to feel a real heel ...

 ... I think the postcard that Terry Waite received, and which he has said meant so much to him, was actually of this window in the Bunyan Meeting House in Bedford, showing Bunyan in Bedford Jail.

                  

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« Reply #161 on: 20:47:57, 01-06-2008 »

... I think the postcard that Terry Waite received, and which he has said meant so much to him, was actually of this window in the Bunyon Meeting House in Bedford, showing Bunyon in Bedford Jail.

...which provides a welcome link to this thread with performances later on this month.  Smiley
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Stanley Stewart
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« Reply #162 on: 20:55:40, 01-06-2008 »

    Alas, George.     Once again, I exit, pursued by a bear!   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #163 on: 21:12:30, 01-06-2008 »

Nonsense, Stanley! Exit accompanied in mutually enjoyable conversation by a small friendly wolf.

I just happen to know that Meeting House quite well which is why it stuck in the memory.
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« Reply #164 on: 13:00:58, 02-06-2008 »

I find it depressing that an art form which currently offers such a range of emotional and intellectual experience (and pleasure) as The Minotaur and VW's Pilgrim's Progress should be considered an obscure, difficult and minority activity.  How's that for a priggish post?
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