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« Reply #30 on: 22:50:49, 09-06-2008 » |
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The critics were always going to go for this, weren't they? It's been sold out for ages, Villaizon has become a critical whipping boy (for no good reason, imo) and it has the seal of the establishment (ie, Hytner) upon it.
Of course, I won't be seeing it, but I would have thought it was an obvious candidate for a piazza presentation (whatever happened to those, anyway?)
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« Reply #31 on: 22:54:14, 09-06-2008 » |
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Of course, I won't be seeing it, but I would have thought it was an obvious candidate for a piazza presentation (whatever happened to those, anyway?)
It's getting one at Trafalgar Square, Canary Wharf and other UK locations on 3rd July: http://esales.roh.org.uk/bp/screens/
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« Reply #32 on: 22:56:41, 09-06-2008 » |
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The critics were always going to go for this, weren't they? It's been sold out for ages, Villaizon has become a critical whipping boy (for no good reason, imo) and it has the seal of the establishment (ie, Hytner) upon it.
Of course, I won't be seeing it, but I would have thought it was an obvious candidate for a piazza presentation (whatever happened to those, anyway?)
With respect, SK - have you heard him since the vocal problems? I hadn't, prior to Friday night, and was quite horrified.
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« Reply #33 on: 23:07:29, 09-06-2008 » |
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I enjoyed it very much. The performance makes it clear that this is a very great opera. The highlights were the conducting and the playing of the ROH orchestra and superb performances by Keenlyside, Furlanetto and Halfvarso. The latter managed to be both a convincing 90 year old and utterly terrifying. Poplavskaya was fairly good but her upper register was weak and by the fourth act I was wincing in anticipation of the next high note. I thought Villazon was a bit shaky in the first act but sang attractively once he warmed up. His acting is old-school and he just does not convince as a man that the two main female characters are supposed to be obsessed by. Any reasonable woman would be chasing Simon Keenlyside. My very restricted view seat didn't give me much of a sense of the design. Villazon
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« Reply #34 on: 23:15:04, 09-06-2008 » |
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Oh stop that, Duncan! I knew Villazon reminded me of somebody... Incidentally, while my companion said the set looked like Parsifal, I took one look at Villazon discovered onstage on a snow-covered set and wondered why he didn't sing 'Kuda, kuda' I'm off to see the Paris Opera do Don Carlo (at the Bastille) next month where I fear we may have a similar problem to the one you mentioned, as generally any reasonable woman would be chasing after Dmitri Hvorostovsky...
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« Reply #35 on: 06:15:29, 10-06-2008 » |
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Oh stop that, Duncan! I knew Villazon reminded me of somebody... Incidentally, while my companion said the set looked like Parsifal, I took one look at Villazon discovered onstage on a snow-covered set and wondered why he didn't sing 'Kuda, kuda' I'm off to see the Paris Opera do Don Carlo (at the Bastille) next month where I fear we may have a similar problem to the one you mentioned, as generally any reasonable woman would be chasing after Dmitri Hvorostovsky... Whenever Hvorostovsky is mentioned, I always think of Lady Dover Hyphen Sole..... Wasn't aware of Villaizon's vocal problems, Ruth....I know he was always being derided for having a 'small' voice but I was VERY impressed by him in Eugene Onegin, a role outside his usual repertoire. Thanks for the heads up about the broadcast, igi....not surprised that Halfvorson impresses: he's been great in everything I've seen him in.
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« Reply #36 on: 08:44:49, 10-06-2008 » |
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I'm off to see the Paris Opera do Don Carlo (at the Bastille) next month where I fear we may have a similar problem to the one you mentioned, as generally any reasonable woman would be chasing after Dmitri Hvorostovsky...
Whenever Hvorostovsky is mentioned, I always think of Lady Dover Hyphen Sole..... Funny you should say that I may have neglected to mention that my trip to the Opera-Bastille is something of a girls' night out Wasn't aware of Villaizon's vocal problems, Ruth....I know he was always being derided for having a 'small' voice but I was VERY impressed by him in Eugene Onegin, a role outside his usual repertoire. The vocal problems caused him to cancel a large amount of work in the latter part of last year, including L'elisir d'amore at the ROH. I gather there was some doubt at the time whether he would be back in time for Don Carlo.
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Tam Pollard
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« Reply #37 on: 21:23:40, 12-06-2008 » |
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IGI,
Thanks for posting your thoughts (which I've only just spotted - note to self, must check here more often).
I agree with a lot of what you say. I bought the Abbado/Scala version after having been swept away when WNO brought it up here a couple of years ago. I was deeply disappointed by the relegation of the opening scene to the appendix - without I don't really find Elizabeth's decision to marry Philip credible. It is also hobbled by the least Francophone singing imaginable, which seriously grates on my ears. It also seems to have been semi-staged (or it certainly feels that way - which is mostly a good thing, though sometimes the balance between singer and orchestra isn't ideal).
I found Matheson much more enjoyable, and I would thoroughly endorse both the views that no fan of the work should be without it but also that it is not all that great a choice as a sole version. I think Matheson can't quite get what others can in the orchestral scenes (the ballet drags). I also find Posa weak. Also, rather annoyingly, despite a lavish libretto, Opera Rara seems to have forgotten to include any biographies.
My ideal would have been Giulini in French.... without that, I think the live ROH version is probably my favourite - how I wish it was a fuller text and that I had been alive to see it.
regards, Tam
p.s. can't wait until Saturday!
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« Reply #38 on: 21:46:18, 12-06-2008 » |
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Thanks for that, Tam. Yes, Giulini in French would have been good, but which cast? The ROH studio one with Domingo or the live one with Vickers? I have to say that Christoff is pretty much my ideal Philip, but I don't know about his French, not having heard his Méphistophélès.
I too am looking forward to Saturday's performance, especially after some postings over on the R3 messageboards reporting Villazon in better voice at the second night.
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Tam Pollard
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« Reply #39 on: 21:58:58, 12-06-2008 » |
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Cast would be an interesting question and one I'm ill-equipped to answer seeing as a critical question is how they cope with the French (for as Abbado shows, when they don't, it isn't good - though maybe a dialogue coach might have helped there).
However, in Italian I prefer the live cast.
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« Reply #40 on: 00:08:00, 15-06-2008 » |
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Well, I was deeply impressed with this new production. Traditionally costumed, beautifully lit and, on the whole, very well sung. Ferruccio Furlanetto stole the show and deserved his huge ovation and his scenes with Simon Keenlyside (Posa) and Eric Halfvarson (a terrifying Grand Inquisitor) were the highlights of the performance. I enjoyed Rolando Villazon's performance, although he definitely took his foot off the accelerator in the third act, an announcement having been made that he had suffered an allergic reaction in the first two acts, but was determined to carry on. He was back on form for the final act, where he and Marina Poplavskaya sang well. I do think though that she and Sonia Ganassi are singing roles too heavy for them, Ganassi in particular, despite some exciting moments. It was 'spot the conductor' night at the ROH....bumped into Mark Elder (or 'Sir' Mark Elder) three times, as well as Yuri Temirkanov. Good old Pappano and his faithful band were on fantastic form too.
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« Reply #41 on: 00:25:54, 15-06-2008 » |
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Didn't realise you were going to be there tonight. Oh well.
I agree with your comments though. Mine will follow when I've finished typing them up.
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« Reply #42 on: 01:48:09, 15-06-2008 » |
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« Reply #43 on: 08:08:07, 15-06-2008 » |
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Many thanks for this review, Tam. I agree about the version used, especially the mask swapping scene; I'm sure I've seen (or heard) that scene reinstated, but without the ballet, and it works fine. When he sang "beware the inquisitor" all I could think was that I could hardly wait.
How I agreed!! I think the Auto-da-fé was Hytner's biggest risk in this staging and, to me, it worked superbly; the bells, the clamouring mob, the Priest Inquisitor declaring the charges against each of the condemend in a terrifying rant - heady stuff. Then, in stunning climax the lighting changes and we can see past Jesus's face to the pyre it was hiding, which ignites most impressively, though the actors playing the condemned have now been replaced by dummies.
You sound almost disappointed!! Btw, I cannot quite understand Giulini's decision in the 1958 ROH production to end Act IV with Posa's death. Last night's programme has an interesting article on the opera's performance history by the RO, including a copy of a memo sent by Lord Harewood criticizing the cut.
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« Reply #44 on: 09:51:33, 15-06-2008 » |
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Of course, one of the nice things about the 1958 recording is the interview with Harewood, and if memory serves he discusses the cut there. I actually don't mind that cut too much - Giulini makes it work and it's such a dramatic moment any. Nothing crucial to the plot happens there (as does in the other cuts I mentioned) and while it is useful to see the Inquisitor quell the rebels I think we have already seen the extent of his power so long as scene one has been done properly. How I agreed!!
I had no idea you'd be a fan of the scene with the Inquisitor! I agree about the Priest Inquisitor - that scene was chilling. And I think it probably was the most adventurous bit of staging (my reference to act two scene two was in terms of the set which didn't seemed more abstract that the rest. Then again, I suspect a solid cold palace isn't too authentic. p.s. should just stress I wasn't disappointed that the real actors escaped the flames!
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