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Ruth Elleson
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« on: 11:19:59, 28-05-2008 »

I have recently started corresponding with a poster on a non-music forum who said she was very keen to develop an interest in opera.

I started off by advising her to listen to the real stuff and avoid crossover at all costs (well I didn't quite put it like that Grin) then pointing her in the direction of a couple of Naxos opera lollipops CDs, which she loved.  There was nothing on them that she didn't like.  (The selection ranged from Gluck to Dvorak with all the obvious stuff in between except for anything heavy and German.)

Specifically, she has pinpointed that she likes energetic men enjoys energetic male singing, particularly based on the excerpts she's now heard from Figaro, Barber, Trovatore and Rigoletto.  Figaro is currently her particular favourite.

As she lives on the south coast and isn't likely to have a chance to get to a live performance anytime soon, my instinct was to recommend DVDs/videos rather than CDs, and I have now offered to make her copies of my off-air TV recordings of Figaro, Rigoletto and Carmen from the ROH.  I've pointed her in the direction of a couple of promising Trovatores (the Verona one - with a warning not to expect much from the acting! - and the recentish Covent Garden one) and one or two other things.

So, question one: can anybody suggest a decent Barber of Seville DVD, preferably at budget or mid-price?  I don't think I own a single one - I've only ever seen it live.

Question two: any other surefire winners based on the way her tastes look to be leaning?

Question three: in which direction might I guide her next?  I think she might get on with Handel, but she does have a preference for male voices.  I think she will probably love Don Giovanni.  What else?  More Verdi, I think... How about other composers?
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« Reply #1 on: 11:24:08, 28-05-2008 »

Question three: in which direction might I guide her next?  I think she might get on with Handel, but she does have a preference for male voices.  I think she will probably love Don Giovanni.  What else?  More Verdi, I think... How about other composers?

Ruth, how about Acis and Galatea for a Handel choice?  Three male voice (non-countertenor) roles, and some ravishing music.  Yes, technically it's not an opera, but...
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« Reply #2 on: 11:36:53, 28-05-2008 »

Thanks strina - I might have known you'd come up with the baroque goods!  That's a really good suggestion, which I might not have thought of myself (at least not for some time).
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« Reply #3 on: 11:42:41, 28-05-2008 »

I guess your correspondent couldn't be coaxed up to London for the new ENO BORIS GODUNOV?   Since it seems the operatic vandals of ENO have dispensed with the entire Polish Act (I'm guessing so - their write-up gives no mention of which version they're performing, but there's no casting listing for Marina or Rangoni) it will not only be fairly short,  but also hasn't got any female parts at all (except for the Hostess and her chicken-plucking bit).  Loads of male voices in that Smiley

If not it might be another work to seek out on DVD, although I don't know what is available in that format and which might be any good.  Understandably I tend to favour productions from my own neck of the woods Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: 11:43:00, 28-05-2008 »

I am not quite sure why now but when I was a teenager I really loved Fidelio. I think it could be the rather romantic story line but the prisoners coming into the sunshine was so memorable.

( I did wonder how his voice had stayed so wonderful though after that time in a damp dungeon !!)

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« Reply #5 on: 11:55:11, 28-05-2008 »

Plenty of testosterone in 'Don Carlo' and 'Tosca'.

I'll have a look to see whether I can find a "Barber" (and what about, say 'Sweeney Todd'?) in my collection.
If found, I'll send a pm, Ruth.    There should also be space on a DVD for Act II of "Tosca" (1964) with Callas, Gobbi & De Stefano in the Zefferelli production.
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« Reply #6 on: 11:59:20, 28-05-2008 »

I have recently started corresponding with a poster on a non-music forum who said she was very keen to develop an interest in opera.

Question two: any other surefire winners based on the way her tastes look to be leaning?

Question three: in which direction might I guide her next?  I think she might get on with Handel, but she does have a preference for male voices.  I think she will probably love Don Giovanni.  What else?  More Verdi, I think... How about other composers?

Perhaps she could be coaxed into the 20th century. What about The Rake's Progress or anything by Britten? Good music, real stories and no struggling to understand other languages (or having to tolerate awful translations or subtitles!).

Since she likes male voices Billy Budd would be ideal. (Or Midsummer Night's Dream; or Peter Grimes.)
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« Reply #7 on: 12:20:48, 28-05-2008 »

Funnily enough I'd already thought of The Rake's Progress and Billy Budd as her most-likely-to-succeed introduction to 20th-century English language works!

Good to know others are on the same wavelength.

Don Carlo is what I would consider an obvious next Verdi step, plus Otello.  Ernani should go down well, too (is there a DVD out there?)

Tosca - well, yes, I agree.  She's already heard Vissi d'arte and E lucevan le stelle on her highlights discs.  These arias alone would have given her no idea of the visceral power of the whole thing (or even the whole of Act 2), so I reckon that's a good idea too.  And possibly Turandot - though I'm a bit dubious about the potential effect of a screaming dramatic soprano.

Thanks for suggestions so far - keep 'em coming!  What about some Donizetti... I can easily send her an off-air copy of La fille du regiment...
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« Reply #8 on: 12:21:09, 28-05-2008 »

At the risk of being too obvious, you could always send her to the beginnings of opera with L'Orfeo.  Good, "proper" male voices in that.  And La Musica makes a pretty good case for the beauty of the female voice.
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« Reply #9 on: 12:33:36, 28-05-2008 »

It's just occurred to me that The Flying Dutchman might be a hit...
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« Reply #10 on: 12:35:25, 28-05-2008 »

Funnily enough I'd already thought of The Rake's Progress and Billy Budd as her most-likely-to-succeed introduction to 20th-century English language works!

Good to know others are on the same wavelength.

Don Carlo is what I would consider an obvious next Verdi step, plus Otello.  Ernani should go down well, too (is there a DVD out there?)

Tosca - well, yes, I agree.  She's already heard Vissi d'arte and E lucevan le stelle on her highlights discs.  These arias alone would have given her no idea of the visceral power of the whole thing (or even the whole of Act 2), so I reckon that's a good idea too..

Glad to hear there are other Britten/Stravinsky enthusiasts here.

Going back to the previous century and thinking about operas where she might know extracts (always useful to have something to hang onto), what about The Magic Flute or Carmen?

Or another one with a well-known tune which is heard (again and again!) would be The Pearl Fishers.

(Dare I mention Wagner?  Die Meistersinger is a great introduction, possibly beginning with the spectacle of the last scene.)
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« Reply #11 on: 12:47:07, 28-05-2008 »

Hi Ruth,

A few DVD recommendations for your friend:

I saw this production of Il Barbiere on Sky and it was very good - witty and well sung.

Otello is a surefire winner and Domingo's best DVD performance is actually from the Met, of all places.

The Callas/Gobbi Tosca Act II is required viewing, of course, but this film version is sumptiously shot.

Reiner recommended Boris Godunov and here your can even get the Polish act!!  Wink
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« Reply #12 on: 12:54:01, 28-05-2008 »

She has had bits of Carmen and The Magic Flute on her highlights discs, and Carmen is among the off-air recordings I'll be sending her.  In fact it's interesting that you should mention those two, as both are on this autumn's Glyndebourne tour.  Glyndebourne is easily the nearest major house to her, and the tour is relatively informal and not violently expensive.  I was thinking of asking whether she might be interested in one of the tour performances as her first live experience (I'm on the mailing list and have the application form on my coffee table at home).
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« Reply #13 on: 13:07:12, 28-05-2008 »

IGI - thanks, especially for the Barber and Otello recommendations - I've not seen either of those versions.

I have hesitated to recommend the Gheorghiu/Alagna Tosca film, on account of how irritating I find it.  I find that the constant cutting away to shots of the studio sessions gives it a sense of artifice which, for me, completely misses the point of this very exciting opera.
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« Reply #14 on: 15:56:33, 28-05-2008 »

It's just occurred to me that The Flying Dutchman might be a hit...

Well, Ruth, there are some glorious male arias in Tannhäuser, too, if you can find a suitable DVD. At the risk of straying into crossover territory there's a fair bit of good stuff from the likes of Hakan Hagegard, Rene Kollo (&, of course, Kiri) on the soundtrack of 'Meeting Venus'; though I must admit I can't remember if the excerpts in the film itself (which I didn't much like) are as lengthy as those on the soundtrack album. 

Lakmé is full of hummable stuff from male characters, as well.  Once again, though, the only film I can think of is one I saw on the Performance channel with Joan Sutherland proving how much more wonderful she looks in ones imagination than on telly.  She's great on CD, though, with Alain Vanzo, Gabriel Bacquier etc. 
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