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This was the announcement in April 2007 Radio 3 Controller to run BBC Proms(click link) So, what do you think Roger Wright could do for the proms? How might he influence the schedule? Does he have favourite composers, old and new? Does he like celebrating anniversaries? John W P.S. the Proms 2007 board is now in the Viewable Archives at
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« Reply #1 on: 10:53:08, 26-10-2007 » |
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This was the announcement in April 2007 Radio 3 Controller to run BBC Proms(click link) So, what do you think Roger Wright could do for the proms? How might he influence the schedule? Does he have favourite composers, old and new? Does he like celebrating anniversaries? John W P.S. the Proms 2007 board is now in the Viewable Archives at
http://r3ok.myforum365.com/index.php?board=54.0
Messages can still be posted thereI expect 'ell start saving even more dough by doing to't Proms what he's done to't radio - 'ell scrap all live performances! That should save 'im a bob or two!
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Reiner Torheit
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« Reply #2 on: 11:21:39, 26-10-2007 » |
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The level of performer/ensemble who ought to be appearing at The Proms doesn't fill their diary just one year ahead... it seems quite likely that some of the outstanding concerts in the 2008 will already have been booked long before? That's not to RW's discredit, of course - this is just the way things work.
I must admit, I am weary of this "oh, it's an anniversary so therefore we must play the music of xxxxx", which strikes me as remarkably unimaginative.
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« Reply #3 on: 12:24:51, 26-10-2007 » |
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I expect 'ell start saving even more dough by doing to't Proms what he's done to't radio - 'ell scrap all live performances! That should save 'im a bob or two! Just like that time in the war with those ration books, wasn't it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gxBo2nSbWg
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"People hate anything well made. It gives them a guilty conscience." John Betjeman
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« Reply #4 on: 14:40:09, 26-10-2007 » |
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The level of performer/ensemble who ought to be appearing at The Proms doesn't fill their diary just one year ahead... it seems quite likely that some of the outstanding concerts in the 2008 will already have been booked long before? That's not to RW's discredit, of course - this is just the way things work.
We know that luv! But - though some of us may not last long enough to see it - it's 2009 that's round 't corner. You mark my words - that scheming blummin'ummer Roger Wright will be out with t'scissors saving a bob here and there wherever 'e can.
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MT Wessel
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« Reply #5 on: 01:41:02, 27-10-2007 » |
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It's yet another boring new game. This time it's "spot the mis-quote" ..
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John W
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« Reply #6 on: 11:37:58, 29-10-2007 » |
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It's yet another boring new game. This time it's "spot the mis-quote" .. So, reading messages above, much of the 2008 schedule might have been booked already, but, since Roger Wright's appointment was announced in April this year, will he have been chairing the 'booking committee' since then? John W
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Reiner Torheit
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« Reply #7 on: 12:24:50, 29-10-2007 » |
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Well, he probably ought to be getting on with the 2009 Festival, really
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« Reply #8 on: 20:55:40, 31-01-2008 » |
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It strikes me that there's always a percentage of people coming, as Reiner implies, programmes decided several years ahead, so give or take a lame 'theme' and Titchmarsh doing his Mario Lanza, I think they will endure. I'd have thought the morale of the BBCSO is a central consideration in terms of semi-adequate rehearsal time and not being mucked about...and indeed how well both sides of the platform are supported. I wonder if any of the Prommers committee is within hailing distance of the board?
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« Reply #9 on: 17:34:30, 04-02-2008 » |
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What do you mean by "Prommers committee"? I'm a trustee of the Promenaders' Musical Charities, and a season ticketholder generally to be found in the first few rows of the Arena, for what that's worth.
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marbleflugel
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« Reply #10 on: 20:48:49, 04-02-2008 » |
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I guess that's who I mean, David. One of the few bodies in the land that cannot be bureaucratised or emasculated. Forgive my lack of initiation into the correct`nomenclature. What contact do you have with Wright if any ? You should have a seat on the board methinks, ideally as part`of an advisory caucus.
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« Reply #11 on: 12:58:50, 05-02-2008 » |
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There's nothing I'm aware of on a formal level so far as programming is concerned. PMC liaise with the BBC and the RAH over the charity collection arrangements, and some of the arrangements for the Last Night presentations which are made by prommers (i.e. the chaplet which goes on the Wood bust, gifts for soloists and conductor), and give them the running total to include in the conductor's speech. Beyond that, there are Q&A sessions which are open to all, and the BBC messageboards, but that's it. Well I suppose logistics mean taht the Director usually has to run the gauntlet of the season ticket queue when he arrives for the concert, but there's certainly not much chance to ask meaningful questions at that point.
To be honest, the prommers are as divided in their opinions as anyone else, there are those who won't come to anything with Wagner in, anything post 1908, anything pre-1700 etc etc. Via the wisdom of crowds, we can usually guess which concerts are likley to be heaving, but there are always some surprises, either because things are unusually empty or vice-versa. Of course, to some extent, it's the sold-out concerts that allow the more "minority" concerts to go ahead (that and flogging off the rights for the Last Night). To be honest, I don't think a fomrally constituted wider board would really be a good thing, almost certain just to turn into a talking shop.
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marbleflugel
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« Reply #12 on: 22:04:54, 06-02-2008 » |
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Cheers for an informative reply David. I guess my view is an idealised one , as if the active element of the audience were thought of as necessary to consult. You guys have a knack of shaping what is`apposite and entertaining in terms of the choruses you mount between the items. Some of the longeurs of recent times-Titchmarsh, endless 'hello-ings' across outside broadcasts on the Last Night for example,could have been avoided and the sense of daring in terms of repertoire, which seems to be under threat with Wright, preserved by a caucus which demonstrates the formidable discernment about. I don't think it would be presumptuous or inappropiate to start some sort of benign pressure group around the Prommers if things look like getting bad.
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« Reply #13 on: 22:48:39, 06-02-2008 » |
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preserved by a caucus I read that as 'cactus'. But I also just saw a headline on the Yahoo homepage which said: 'Fifty-two die as tomatoes hit U.S. South'
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« Reply #14 on: 22:01:39, 07-02-2008 » |
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Indeed, a Cactus would improve the pitch with adroit timing. Is there a Euro regulation for the quality of fruit etc its permissible to throw at politicians (and the arts `council and its spineless lackeys)
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Arnold Brown
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