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Author Topic: Prom 12 - Mussorgsky, Adès etc  (Read 734 times)
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« on: 10:10:53, 26-07-2008 »

I'm very much looking forward to attending this evening's Prom; it will be interesting to hear Mussorgsky's Night on the Bare Mountain in its Sorochintsy Fair version, which includes chorus (and soloist, I recall) and a treat in store with John Tomlinson in scenes from Boris. Adès' Tevot forms the 'Russian sandwich' filling in a slot of its own between intervals. Tevot was given its premiere last year and there's an interesting article in The Guardian by Tom Service on the piece.

Louis Lortie has impressed me before in Prokofiev, so the 1st Piano Concerto will be another treat before the concert closes with Borodin's Polovtsian Dances. Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: 12:13:49, 26-07-2008 »

IGI,

I had no idea that Mussorgsky's Night on the Bare Mountain had a "Sorochintsy Fair version", didn't notice that on the Proms listing, so worth a listen for me.

I first heard Borodin's Polovtsian Dances early this year on old vinyl so another one ticked to listen, and I don't recall ever hearing Prokofiev's piano concerto no. 1, so ticked that one too.

Thomas Ades' Tevot isn't high on my list but I do recall listening/watching to Asyla on Youtube after some other discussion on here or maybe elsewhere, and I was quite taken with it.

So all in all, especially as my wife will be out, I will likely listen tonight if I'm not tempted by the local pub.

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« Reply #2 on: 12:26:11, 26-07-2008 »

I too am looking forward to this evening's concert very much. I hope to see you later, IGI - am currently sunning myself in the Arena season ticket queue, so should have a prime view for the piano concerto!
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« Reply #3 on: 12:42:36, 26-07-2008 »

I had no idea that Mussorgsky's Night on the Bare Mountain had a "Sorochintsy Fair version",

After abortive attempts to work this set-piece number into his (abandoned) early opera THE WITCH, and subsequent efforts to reutilise the material in the multi-composer opera MLADA,  Musorgsky had still never had the piece performed. (MLADA was cancelled at its dress rehearsal, and the public never heard the piece in the five-composer version.  Musorgsky's music was cut from two subsequent versions of MLADA,  produced (i) by Minkus - a ballet score - and (ii) Rimsky's opera version).

He finally tried to work it into SOROCHINSKY FAIR, an opera which he didn't manage to finish before his death, although there were extensive amounts of it completed, and still more in sketches.  It's still not clear where in the score the number was to have been inserted (and in fact it's usually left out of versions completed after Musorgsky's death).  

The version which turns up in SOROCHINSKY FAIR has an entirely new title - "The Nightmare Vision of the Peasant Boy",  and isn't called either "Night on a Bare/Bald Mountain" or "The Witches Sabbath on Mount Triglav" or "The Worship Of Chiornobog" (three previous abandoned titles for it).  

[SF is a comedy set in an exaggeratedly "yokel" village in Ukraine, based on a story of the same name by Gogol'. The story is very similar to THE BARTERED BRIDE, and all takes place at the annual Fair - which is reputed to be haunted by a Devil in human form named "Red-Jacket".  When a romantic liaison between the Priest's Son and a married woman is disturbed, the Priest's son leaps out of the first-floor window and runs off.  The villagers - seeing a red-clad man suddenly leaping from the sky - believe it's "Red-Jacket" come to get them.  Presumably he's the "nightmare vision", and this is where the piece ought to come?  But it's pencil-marked for inclusion into Act 1, which must surely be wrong?  Act 1 is the dispute between the Khivrya (the lady with the priestly lover-boy) and the young buck who's come wooing her daughter Parasya... Khivrya decides the boy isn't worthy of her daughter. But the Gypsy Saddler knows the truth about Khivrya's liaison, and blackmails her that unless she lets her daughter marry, he'll spill the beans. All ends happily with a jolly drinking chorus.  There's a lovely aria for Parasya in Act 1 when she thinks she's been dumped.]

The piece conventionally known as "Night On A Bald* Mountain" is actually by Rimsky-Korsakov, arranged from Musorgsky's material from the MLADA version (which Rimsky had "inherited" as the unlucky coordinator of MLADA) plus various other bits and pieces of Mussorgsky's works, and served-up in his own zesty reorchestration.  There's probably good cause to title Musorgsky's version "The Peasant Boy's Nightmare Vision", to distinguish it from Rimsky's.  The Disney film "Fantasia" made the Rimsky version famous, but I forget who is credited as the composer of it.

* it really is "bald", на лисой горе - the word used for male hair-falling. If it had been "bare" (unclothed, naked, void) it would have been на голой горе... but Musorgsky didn't call it that Wink  The title's pictorial - the mountain appears to have a monastic "tonsure", a wooded area with a bald peak.  Walt Disney's artists obliged accordingly Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: 12:52:18, 26-07-2008 »


(medyvalesque spyllng sgsted by antye as my ceyboarde ys malfunctynge byg tyme)
Fascyntyng stuff Reyner. Prygmtysm / poygncy of mussorgscy's plyght. always thght that the pyce had smthyg of the perylous famyly encounter about yt-there s a unyquely terrfyng versyn vby the slough organ socyetye.
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« Reply #5 on: 13:11:54, 26-07-2008 »

Marbs

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« Reply #6 on: 13:19:14, 26-07-2008 »

thys mornynge twas the ryver wye oh wye but onwarde and upstreame  Wink
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« Reply #7 on: 13:34:04, 26-07-2008 »


(medyvalesque spyllng sgsted by antye as my ceyboarde ys malfunctynge byg tyme)
Fascyntyng stuff Reyner. Prygmtysm / poygncy of mussorgscy's plyght. always thght that the pyce had smthyg of the perylous famyly encounter about yt-there s a unyquely terrfyng versyn vby the slough organ socyetye.

 Cheesy  Evyan now dryppyng from a showered computer screen.


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« Reply #8 on: 13:50:32, 26-07-2008 »

So it's 'I' and 'K' you're missing, is it, marbs?

 (Not a self-assembly job, by any chance, is it? If so, I confidently predict that 'E' and 'A' will be the next to go....)
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« Reply #9 on: 15:30:07, 26-07-2008 »

So it's 'I' and 'K' you're missing, is it, marbs?

 (Not a self-assembly job, by any chance, is it? If so, I confidently predict that 'E' and 'A' will be the next to go....)

Ron, as Marbs said, 'twas I said that substitute a Y for an I for easier reading but he keeps adding an extraneous E.  Next thing he'll be in a doublet and hose and feathered cap and swapping his S for an F and no doubt swapping Norf Lunnon for The Globe  Cheesy

Back on topic, we did Mussorgsky to death in Musical Appreciation at The Seminary I can barely listen to it.
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« Reply #10 on: 18:10:20, 26-07-2008 »

we did Mussorgsky to death in Musical Appreciation

An' I always thort it was the drink wot dun him in? Wink

KHOVANSCHINA is the masterpiece - in the DSCH performing version, optimally.  I can see they might not have gone big on the piece at the Seminary, though Wink
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« Reply #11 on: 18:21:56, 26-07-2008 »

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Reiner,

No, I am always open to suggestions, Pictures and Bald Mountain don't get my vote but I will explore more of Modeste willingly, as I am sure many will.
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« Reply #12 on: 23:42:00, 26-07-2008 »

I really enjoyed this concert. John Tomlinson was in superb voice as Boris, plus a cameo in Sorochintsy Fair version of A Night on the Bare Mountain and I thought the chorus were tremendous - a pity Thomas Adès didn't bring them to their feet at the end of the Boris scenes - their contribution to the Coronation Scene deserved some acknowledgement. As well as the unusual version of the Mussorgsky, it was also good to have the Evening Chorus of Polovtsian Girls (which opens the Polovtsian act of Prince Igor) before the more familiar Dances - chorus and orchestra in fine form here too, although I felt it lacked the unbuttoned exuberance required in places, where tempi seemed a bit restrained. I quite enjoyed the Adès composition Tevot - some parts lay ridiculously high for the violins so that only dogs in Kensington Gardens could hear it, but there was some lovely string writing later on and plenty of interest in woodwind and percussion parts. I shall try to listen to it again to test what impression a second hearing offers.

Saw Ruth in the first interval - she had prime spot in the front row of prommers this evening!
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« Reply #13 on: 23:44:10, 26-07-2008 »

I see we've gone for the old spelling, then Wink

I was in row 4 tonight, even though I didn't get there till 4:50 Shocked

Sir JT was, well, wonderful. I didn't have a clue what he was singing about, but I was still very drawn in indeed. The Adès was also engrossing, as usual having gone to the talk before the concert helped. Prokofiev: I was astonished by how much the piano sound benefited from the few rows of space. The previous Brahms and Rachmaninov sounded very odd balance-wise (I was in the front row for both these). Lortie enjoyed himself a lot. I was slightly confused as to the need for the soprano at the start of the Borodin, not very cost-effective?
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« Reply #14 on: 23:48:25, 26-07-2008 »

Just for fun, although it's had an outing here before, a link to WHICH DEAD RUSSIAN COMPOSER ARE YOU?

http://www.doppelgriff.com/russian/
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