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Ha! No offence, D'combes. I like furniture.  Those jazz guys refer to the 'bored' all the time, so it doesn't originate with me by any means. I think King Kennytone started it, but I may be wrong... And anyway, yes I DO like jazz, but I'm very ignorant about a lot of it. I've got nothing against jazz either. In fact I think I listened to some in 1973. |
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« Reply #61 on: 23:47:28, 01-06-2008 » |
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Most organisations which experience sudden expansion lose much of their original identity
Could this happen to us? What would we have to feed him?! In the last couple of days he's been working on that for himself with the aid of various Galician delights.  |
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« Reply #62 on: 14:44:24, 02-06-2008 » |
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I have to admit I quite like some Jazz, but I just have no idea where to start  I think it all started when I watched the first of the "Beiderbecke" trilogy ( The Beiderbecke Affair, by Alan Plater). The music felt perfectly right for the storyline. I've listened patiently to some of the more avant-garde jazz, but I'm afraid it leaves me cold, at best. And I used to listen to Jazz Record Requests with Geoffrey Smith ("Hel- LO!") but nothing really stayed with me. |
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Click me -> About meor me -> my handmade storeNo, I'm not a complete idiot. I'm only a halfwit. In fact I'm actually a catfish. |
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« Reply #63 on: 14:45:36, 02-06-2008 » |
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Kitty, sounds as if you should start a thread and take advantage of the influx of jazzers... |
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« Reply #64 on: 15:09:33, 02-06-2008 » |
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I think it all started when I watched the first of the "Beiderbecke" trilogy (The Beiderbecke Affair, by Alan Plater). The music felt perfectly right for the storyline.
Kitty, can I say Aaaarrrgghhh! ? OK. Aaaarrrgghhh! The TV series Beiderbecke Tapes/Connection/Affair were quite enjoyable I suppose (I watched the first one) but the music/soundtrack was NOT classic jazz numbers perfomed by Bix Beiderbecke/Frankie Trumbauer or Paul Whiteman's band. In fact I still don't know who played the poor imitations of Bix/Tram in that series, and I don't know why they couldn't feature the genuine music from 1920s. Well if you liked THAT music you will love the real Bix John W |
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« Reply #65 on: 17:08:57, 02-06-2008 » |
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Love all three series of The Beiderbecke Tapes/Connection/Affair, but as John says, the music is certainly not Bix (nor a particularly good imitation). Also the predecessor, Get Lost (it's included in the DVD box set of all of the series), which has a darker edge to it and a bit less of the slightly cutesy quality in the better-known series, which I occasionally find a little cloying. Anyone know his play Misterioso, named after the Thelonious Monk number?
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« Reply #66 on: 22:19:23, 02-06-2008 » |
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I managed to capture one (alas! only one) programme about Bix himself with some of his recordings, and yes, his real music is markedly different. I suspect the music for the series was sweetened for the great unwashed (including Yrs.Truly). Look for new thread |
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« Reply #67 on: 22:33:47, 02-06-2008 » |
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Yes Kitty, I remember that programme, it was produced by a lady and I've just forgotten her name. There was also a book Bix: Man & Legend by Evans, Sudhalter and Dean-Myatt which got me into collecting his Paul Whiteman band 78s, many of which also feature Bing. I found most of them over the years, but I've only ever found three Frankie Trumbauer 78s. Got a few CDs.
There's a more recent biography by Jean Pierre Lion which I haven't read yet.
Anyway, as you say we should discuss all this over the road.
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« Reply #69 on: 18:44:32, 17-06-2008 » |
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I like all the new images except the iPod commercial  Thanks for making the suggestion, JW |
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« Reply #70 on: 20:05:09, 17-06-2008 » |
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Not a fan of the DG yellow label, JW: can't you find something from a quality company?
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« Reply #71 on: 20:41:13, 17-06-2008 » |
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Not a fan of the DG yellow label, JW: can't you find something from a quality company?
How about that nice label that Ozzie keeps posting, from La Tavola Chromaticha? (spelling I fergit) |
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« Reply #72 on: 20:45:40, 17-06-2008 » |
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« Reply #73 on: 20:56:59, 17-06-2008 » |
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Not a fan of the DG yellow label, JW: can't you find something from a quality company?
Yes Ron, but you have to consider their importance to the classical music genre, and how popular their 1960s recordings are in the 21st century etc etc. The Tchaikovsky example was to demonstrate that they don't just do Beethoven and Brahms There's a Decca image currently, so thought we'd change. Sorry turf, I meant to delete the ipod image. John |
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« Reply #74 on: 22:16:18, 17-06-2008 » |
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Not a fan of the DG yellow label, JW: can't you find something from a quality company?
Yes Ron, but you have to consider their importance to the classical music genre, and how popular their 1960s recordings are in the 21st century etc etc. Mainly as a part of the Karajan machine, John. As recordings they very rarely reached the heights achieved by those of Decca, Mercury, RCA, etc., in the 60s, and went even further downhill at the start of the digital era. The vast majority of their discs were engineered to sound at their best on rather average continental radiograms; on anything like decent equipment their shortcomings are glaringly obvious - very narrow dynamic range, excessive spotlighting and 'fizzed-up' mixing: great for hoodwinking the masses into believing they're listening to quality, absolute non-starters for those who more interested in the closest possible approximation to reality. But then, the excessive compression applied to CFM apparently causes you no distress either. Their excessive kow-towing to Chromium K is almost certainly the point after which the recording industry started to go into decline, too.... |
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