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Yes, rm, Pickard has gone in a very different direction; was deeply impressed by The Flight of Icarus which I have in an off-air recording. His quartets? Now there's an admission of omission: they're sitting in my 'yet to be played' pile.......
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Yes, I remember The Flight of Icarus too, and was at the first perf of his 2nd Symphony (?1989) which was also very powerful. By Simpsonian re the 4tets I think I mean I admire the craftsmanship but remain unmoved by the music itself; the energy I responded to in the orchestral works (and the piano sonata) seems either dryly contrived and forced or absent altogether in the 4tets.
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« Reply #17 on: 14:07:31, 11-02-2007 » |
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Thank you hh and Ron Dough. I am going to listen again with open mind. It is amazing that Stravinsky changed his "personality" so to say many times and very drastically. It is like if a person changes his personality completely every time.   [/IMG] |
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« Reply #19 on: 15:22:17, 11-02-2007 » |
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I have to confess that as a pianist I was prejudice against Stravinky. Arthur Rubinstein said that he treated the piano as a percussive instrument and did not like his music. I am listening to Stravinsky piano concerto for winds and piano. They said that in 1920 when it was composed there was only Romantic repertoire. But what about Prokofiev? Did not he wrote his concertos yet. I never had any problems with Prokofiev's music as I was exposed to it from childhood. Stravinsky concerto doesn't sound like Prokofiev I have to say. May I say that Prokofiev's conertos are more exciting? May be this is why they are played more often.  |
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« Reply #20 on: 22:31:22, 11-02-2007 » |
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Stravinsky Appolo sounds to me a little like Mahler. Is it possible?
Does anyone knows this piece?
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« Reply #21 on: 22:38:07, 11-02-2007 » |
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t-p, I know what you mean I think. It's a very 'lush' score, but I think Stravinsky was thinking not so much of Mahler as of 'classical' proportions and elegance. It was, I think, the first piece he had written in many years that was scored for strings, as opposed to many for wind/ percussion/ pianos etc.
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Yes, t-p, it's another Stravinsky piece that's been in my core collection for at least a quarter of a century. I'd not say that the Mahler connection rings true for me; I find the piece elegant and emotionally restrained, and once again it's the expansion of orchestral technique (in this instance with regard to string sonorities) which is so striking; something that Britten, as I mentioned before, wished particularly to emulate.
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« Reply #23 on: 22:53:25, 11-02-2007 » |
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Thank you martle and Ron Dough,
I think that emotional string writing makes it sound like Mahler at times for me.
But at the same time after a while there was Stravinsky rhythm.
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« Reply #24 on: 14:05:13, 12-02-2007 » |
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I am listening to Stravinsky Nightingale. I am so glad for the opportunity to hear it. The plot is unusual.
I really have to start practising, but I have an excuse of not feeling well. Does anyone knows this opera?
I can hear connection betwee this music and Rimsky-Korsakov.
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« Reply #25 on: 23:13:13, 13-02-2007 » |
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Hi t-p, all,
This Strav-Tchaik thing is really interesting for me personally.
If you had asked me before which of them I preferred, it would have been Tchaik. (I would immediately have thought of the Symphonies and a few other pieces.) But the more I listen, the more I find that Tchaik also wrote a lot of dross, whilst nearly all of Strav's stuff is gripping. Really really getting to enjoy Strav again.
Goodness, am I actually going to enjoy an 'Experience'?
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« Reply #26 on: 23:15:40, 13-02-2007 » |
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Oh yes, forgot.
t-p, if they haven't played The Rake's Progress yet, don't miss it. Really imaginative use of instruments and some very beautiful music (Anne Trulove's arias).
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« Reply #27 on: 09:34:56, 14-02-2007 » |
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Thank you Tommo. I hope it is today.  I am really glad to improve on my knowledge of Stravinsky. |
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« Reply #28 on: 18:59:51, 15-02-2007 » |
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The Rite of Spring and the full Firebird ballet music are the two pieces that got me into the "classical" world, but I can't say that in my investigations I've yet found anything else Igor did that has spellbound me in the way those two did. Perhaps I was spoilt with my initial choices  But having read this thread I'll try Agon and the Rake's Progress. |
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They really are at opposite ends of the spectrum; Agon is superficially quite gritty and reveals its charms insidiously, whereas Rake's Progress is almost the opposite. Have you tried the Symphony in Three Movements, the violin concerto, the Symphony of Psalms? Almost the centres of his oeuvre from which to work outwards.
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