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ml, did nobody tell you about the boycott?
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« Reply #16 on: 01:00:32, 10-02-2007 » |
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Hallo Bryn Umm, no I didn't know about a boycott. That's an incredibly unfair course of action to take in my opinion. The means has been provided to make comments - and I believe that if you have a whinge, at least make it known using the method provided on that page. Why can't people enjoy and discover the music (there are some wonderful pieces, in particular one of my personal favourites - Manfred Symphony) and engage in some positive, even negative debate. Yes, we are all sore about the messageboard situation but hey, life goes on and our hardy species will adapt and mutate as it did in our previous existence. Noone is asking that you all listen all of the time, pick an hour, take a lucky pick and then go and share your views. What could be simpler than that?  |
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« Reply #17 on: 01:10:45, 10-02-2007 » |
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Hi ML, I sent in my comments about the Tchai/Strav Fest. I won't hear half of it of course, being at work. I didn't know we had a boycott either  |
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« Reply #18 on: 01:19:11, 10-02-2007 » |
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WOooo hoooo Anna!!! You are a star!!!!!!!!!!!! (Where are the star smileys?) I will await your comment with excitement and nervous anticipation.  |
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« Reply #19 on: 08:47:28, 10-02-2007 » |
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Hallo Bryn
Umm, no I didn't know about a boycott. Well I for one intend to boycott all the recordings I already have on CD, (which, apart from anything else, will give me a chance to swap the SD card in the Bug so that I can get the rest. Fortunately I can get a little over 23 hours on each 2 GB card. ;-) Now I wonder whether that 'listener', Paul Beeecham, ever happened to work for the Beeb? <whistle> |
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« Reply #20 on: 10:38:26, 10-02-2007 » |
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Ho! Can anybody give me a sound reason as to why the BBC are broadcasting the Tchaikowsky rarities, so far as the UK is concerned, "Voyevoda" at 1'22 a.m.; "Oprichnik" at 2'30 a.m. and "The Enchantress" at 1'08 a.m. I would have thought that they could have been on during the day or evening and the often played, well known items put on during the night. Cheers  |
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« Reply #21 on: 10:40:29, 10-02-2007 » |
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I am listening to Pulcinela by Stravinsky, but missed the introduction. i don't know that piece and dont' know what is the story. May be I can google.
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« Reply #22 on: 14:40:17, 10-02-2007 » |
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Can anybody give me a sound reason as to why the BBC are broadcasting the Tchaikowsky rarities, so far as the UK is concerned, "Voyevoda" at 1'22 a.m.; "Oprichnik" at 2'30 a.m. and "The Enchantress" at 1'08 a.m. I would have thought that they could have been on during the day or evening and the often played, well known items put on during the night.
I do agree, Soundwave. I'm looking forward to 'Vakula the Smith' which has just started, in what Louise Fryer said is the only available recording of the work. I'd recommend Tchaikovsky's revision 'Cherevichki' which is being broadcast through the night in a live recording from Cagliari conducted by Gennadi Rozhdestvensky - I have the CDs and it's a joyous performance. I'd also recommend the 'Oprichnik' from the same source. My recorder's going to working overtime through the nights....there are recordings of the songs performed by Leiferkus, Rautio, Levinsky and Skigin which originally appeared on the Conifer label but are now almost impossible to get hold of other than at exorbitant prices. |
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« Reply #23 on: 19:30:02, 10-02-2007 » |
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Everything is going to be on Listen Again so you can catc the TTN repertoire at a more convenient time.
Oh and one of the posters today did write something critical and it wasn't censored so this is not an Auntie Beeb conspiracy Bryn, sorry if that is a disappointment!
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« Reply #24 on: 20:22:58, 10-02-2007 » |
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I listened to Vakula and found that it is absolutely different from operas that I more or less know: Eugine Onegin, Dame Piq (what is it called?). I would never guess that it was Tchaikovsky. And the words!! There are so many mildly bad words. Russian Durak (fool) is much stronger word that English equivalent.
I liked the opera very much, but could not follow the plot.
This Tchaikovsky's first day is not too bad. I enjoyed Mozartiana. The last piece is an arrangement of piano variations.
I had no idea that Tchaikovsky loved Mozart so much. I see nothing in common between them.
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« Reply #25 on: 00:19:11, 11-02-2007 » |
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Anyone hear the Divertimento/ Concerto for Piano and Winds/ Manfred concert (BBC Phil) tonight? I was there. Signor Noseda groaned his way through Manfred and Toradze stamped his way through the Concerto - how audible was it on air? That said, I thought both were more than decent performances - great strings in the Tchaikovsky and some wonderful sounds from the percussion (how many composers before him used tam-tams so expressively and effectively?) Pity about some of the woodwind tuning against the organ at the end... Any views on rewriting the end of the piece? After so much great music, a conductor is in a lose-lose situation however he chooses to finish it... It had never struck me before how much Berlioz there is in it - specifically more Byron inspired music: Corsaire in the third mt and (of course) Harold in the last.
In the Stravinsky I thought Toradze was going to be just too percussive and rigid from his first entry, but he made some lovely sounds in the 2nd movement, quite a Bachian quality to the lines, I thought!
The Divertimento was not, to my ears, particularly well-balanced, a problem I often have with Noseda (his Also Sprach last October was fairly chaotic). But, nice to hear it all the same.
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« Reply #26 on: 00:58:05, 11-02-2007 » |
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I've really enjoyed everything I've heard today, particularly the BBC Phil. concert. However, the problem is that although I like the opportunity to hear as much Tchaikovsky and Stravinsky as possible, there's so much I'm missing ( as I'm sure many others are) - because we can't listen to the radio all day. Even if I used Listen Again (which is still rubbish), or recorded some of it, it's still a lot to take in in one week. So perhaps it would have been better to have had half each day this week of the "normal" schedule, then the other half Stravinsky/ Tchaikovsky. That would have been a good compromise, seen as some listeners are completely against the Tchaikovsky experience anyway.
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« Reply #27 on: 01:02:07, 11-02-2007 » |
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Hi Bryn I somehow felt that Tchaikovsky himself would not have contemplated a choral version.. thanks for confiming that the choral version is the work of some unknown Buketoff. Black mark to Hazlewood for performing this drivel, but it's already clear that he's utterly addicted to his own ego and all that swells it. I am stunned that R3 chose to broadcast this utter tosh... well, no, in fact, I'm not stunned... it's clearly the future of R3 to broadcast drivelly arrangements of major works. Next stop Swan-Lake-A-La-Bossanova  |
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« Reply #28 on: 01:05:37, 11-02-2007 » |
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<quote> Ho! Can anybody give me a sound reason as to why the BBC are broadcasting the Tchaikowsky rarities, so far as the UK is concerned, "Voyevoda" at 1'22 a.m.; "Oprichnik" at 2'30 a.m. </quote>
Because Roger Wright is a brainless dolt with the imagination of a caravan-site and the brains of a piece of asparagus. "Oprichnik" at 02:30am?? The man is a talentless prick.
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« Reply #29 on: 10:58:24, 11-02-2007 » |
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I didn't sleep very well last night so I rose, made a drink, and watched some TV. As I hadn't seen Charles Hazlewood conduct before (he was doing Tchaikovsky 6th) and bearing in mind the comments in "another place", I was interested. Now I'm not going to comment on the performance. What struck me, however, is that he was conducting in the manner of a choir conductor and not an orchestral conductor. I found that very odd - especially for the piece involved. The "stirring the pudding" effect was there.  |
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