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« Reply #1485 on: 21:59:37, 06-05-2007 » |
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Ho Ian, Have you posted lately?  A Please, A. You should know that I enormously value both your posts and t-p's. And that we all make mistakes when we post here (I made a real clanger in a Brahms post last night, despite that being one of my areas of expertise). I would hate it if either of you were to leave the board on account of this. What is this dispute about?  ? Please, stand back, everyone, and tell me if this isn't the most incredible storm in a teacup? What's the worst thing that could be said? That we have rather a lot of posts, some of which aren't in perfect English? I can think of another R3 related messageboard that would be in bliss if that was all they had to worry about...... Ian |
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« Reply #1486 on: 22:04:32, 06-05-2007 » |
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A I think 1435 and thereabouts are what caused t-p trouble. I don't mean to stir things up any more, but I do think this was unfair teasing on your and Kitty's parts, towards someone who had already made plain her sensitivity to imperfect English. That's all. Perhaps sometimes we forget that what we post, to another individual poster primarily, is nevertheless visible to all. (?) Peace!  |
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« Reply #1487 on: 22:12:51, 06-05-2007 » |
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Could I possibly interest you in another slice of Battenburg with your cup of Assam? Or there`s the magnificent lemon cheesecake over there? Maybe a sliver of chocolate cake with almonds? Wonderfully moist!
Apple cake? Home made. Maybe you`d like to switch to Earl Grey? Or Darjeeling? Scones? With jam and cream? Oh look, here`s the Vicar .....
Actually, on second though, I rather like the idea of a really poncey mug of hot chocolate, the bitter variety, maybe with some cream on top so it's a little unhealthy. If I drank I might add rum or something (Actually, what is the best spirit for adding to hot chocolate (other than Baileys). With toast. If I wasn't so full I might be pushed to try some bakewell tart or this rather night chocolate and hazelnut brownie that a vegetarian restaurant near me make...(or I might try make it myself). [Edit: Actually. A small slice of homemade apple cake, provided it isn't all cloved-up, might go down quite well now]. Oh, if only my oven was working I could make some bread; cup of tea and some freshly baked bread! Oh. But yes: fecking landlord; I swear! Had someone come over to fix it last week; but it stopped working again within three days. Grrrr. I wants mah oven! I miss mah bakin & roastin! Homemade apple cake sans cloves coming up. Why mess up the apple? Know what you mean about no oven. I didn`t have one for yonks (it died) until I came here, since when I have been baking and roasting with a vengeance! Yahooo! May you get an oven very soon. |
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« Reply #1488 on: 22:17:02, 06-05-2007 » |
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Has anyone noticed that English-speaking people are, to say the least, rather less adept at foreign languages than many others (and I'm no exception)? One of the things about learning a language, whether in spoken or (perhaps much harder) written form is trying it, making mistakes, learning from one's mistakes and getting better that way. Now, we Brits love to superciliously pronounce on others' imperfect English, to mock their accents, to instantly assign national stereotypes, and so on and so forth. And perhaps we imagine that all other people do the same? And that's a reason why we think it's better not even to try with foreign languages, for risk of seeming foolish?? Please think about what I'm saying here.
I think it must take a lot to post to a messageboard in a language that one has not known since young.
By the way, I had a fling with a Russian woman a few years ago, and I can assure you that t-p's written English is significantly better than this woman's spoken English.
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« Reply #1489 on: 22:18:11, 06-05-2007 » |
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Homemade apple cake sans cloves coming up. Why mess up the apple?
To torment one's grandchildren? At least I'm pretty sure that's what my grandmother's reason was. Know what you mean about no oven. I didn`t have one for yonks (it died) until I came here, since when I have been baking and roasting with a vengeance! Yahooo! May you get an oven very soon. Well the handyman last time said it was only a loose screw that was causing the rather terrifying noises that were to resume subsequently. So...hopefully won't need a whole new one; I'm really quite fond of it & have gotten used to it's rather pathological arrangement of knobs and buttons. Grr. Actually, now that I'm on the subject of appliances that make one fear for one's life, I must mention the microwave that came with the first flat I had; it was...like a normal microwave...but...didn't turn off when you opened the door...I'd usually turn it on while making a run for the living room and then turn it off using the mains by the door before inspecting whatever it was I had though unimportant yet urgent enough to put in there. |
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« Reply #1490 on: 22:23:42, 06-05-2007 » |
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Homemade apple cake sans cloves coming up. Why mess up the apple?
To torment one's grandchildren? At least I'm pretty sure that's what my grandmother's reason was. Know what you mean about no oven. I didn`t have one for yonks (it died) until I came here, since when I have been baking and roasting with a vengeance! Yahooo! May you get an oven very soon. Well the handyman last time said it was only a loose screw that was causing the rather terrifying noises that were to resume subsequently. So...hopefully won't need a whole new one; I'm really quite fond of it & have gotten used to it's rather pathological arrangement of knobs and buttons. Grr. Actually, now that I'm on the subject of appliances that make one fear for one's life, I must mention the microwave that came with the first flat I had; it was...like a normal microwave...but...didn't turn off when you opened the door...I'd usually turn it on while making a run for the living room and then turn it off using the mains by the door before inspecting whatever it was I had though unimportant yet urgent enough to put in there. Cripes! That wasn`t a micowave, that was AN ALIEN TRANSPORTER!!!! You had a near escape! |
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« Reply #1491 on: 22:24:11, 06-05-2007 » |
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Has anyone noticed that English-speaking people are, to say the least, rather less adept at foreign languages than many others (and I'm no exception)? One of the things about learning a language, whether in spoken or (perhaps much harder) written form is trying it, making mistakes, learning from one's mistakes and getting better that way. Now, we Brits love to superciliously pronounce on others' imperfect English, to mock their accents, to instantly assign national stereotypes, and so on and so forth. And perhaps we imagine that all other people do the same? And that's a reason why we think it's better not even to try with foreign languages, for risk of seeming foolish?? Please think about what I'm saying here.
I think it must take a lot to post to a messageboard in a language that one has not known since young.
By the way, I had a fling with a Russian woman a few years ago, and I can assure you that t-p's written English is significantly better than this woman's spoken English.
As a northerner who is always teased about my accent I agree. I am however consistent in my 'misuse' of vowels. I say no more. I am absolutely fed up of even reading about this. I still have no idea what was being said when I asked what the message meant and when everyone went crackers at me. So if I use proper Northern vowels will you be nice to me too? 'ecky thump eets not that bad |
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« Reply #1492 on: 22:26:05, 06-05-2007 » |
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I have to say that being on internet fora has really increased my tolerance of Other People's usually rather poor level of Hiberno-English.
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« Reply #1493 on: 22:28:32, 06-05-2007 » |
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Cripes! That wasn`t a micowave, that was AN ALIEN TRANSPORTER!!!! You had a near escape!
That would explain the appearance of many of the things I removed from it (my microwaving skills are not the best...). Q: If there was a teleportation device to some alien world (where you knew you could conceivably survive for an extended period of time, but not much else), would you do it? What if there was some fresh apple pie waiting for you on the other side?  Microwaves really do look rather sinister when you look at them from below (or from the right (ho ho ho)). But so, then do many things, I guess (ho ho ho). |
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« Reply #1494 on: 22:29:32, 06-05-2007 » |
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As a northerner who is always teased about my accent I agree. I am however consistent in my 'misuse' of vowels.
I say no more. I am absolutely fed up of even reading about this. I still have no idea what was being said when I asked what the message meant and when everyone went crackers at me.
So if I use proper Northern vowels will you be nice to me too?
'ecky thump eets not that bad
Whyyabuggaman!!! Sounds like you are definitely from the wrong side of the North, though  Howayy, lass, yerall canny. Champion, like. Oo-aa no-aa! Ian (a Northerner himself, who knows he might have a smidgeon more street-cred if the accent hadn't mostly disappeared after going away to school at age 10. Mind you, get him on the subject of 'class'....! ) |
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« Reply #1495 on: 22:32:22, 06-05-2007 » |
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Ian  Ya smokes tabs an all, like? |
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« Reply #1496 on: 22:33:25, 06-05-2007 » |
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Ian Ya smokes tabs an all, like? Aye. Did ya Ma and Da smo-ak 'em? (first rule of all North-Eastern accents - never use one vowel where two will do) |
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« Reply #1497 on: 22:41:03, 06-05-2007 » |
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Ian Ya smokes tabs an all, like? Aye. Did ya Ma and Da smo-ak 'em? (first rule of all North-Eastern accents - never use one vowel where two will do) My Mummy and Daddy smoked cigarettes. Can I still play in the gang? |
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« Reply #1498 on: 22:42:52, 06-05-2007 » |
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My Mummy and Daddy smoked cigarettes. Can I still play in the gang? Whayyy - 's a posh bewter, ya knaa! |
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« Reply #1499 on: 22:46:24, 06-05-2007 » |
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My Mummy and Daddy smoked cigarettes. Can I still play in the gang? Whayyy - 's a posh bewter, ya knaa! Oh super, chaps! Anyone got a light, darlings? |
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