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Antheil
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« Reply #7680 on: 18:31:04, 23-09-2008 »

This afternoon we once again tried in vain to open the teenager a bank account.  The Bank have to have addresses for the last three years and picture identification with him at the address he's currently living at. 

Our only option now is to spend nearly £100 on a passport, get him a new driving licence and I think I'll have to go round personally to the Town Hall to get them to send us an official document that he is now residing here. 


Milly it is bureaucracy gone mad!  If you put your house on the market, under the new Money Laundering Regulations you have to provide proof of who you are, a utility bill and picture ID which is either driving licence or passport.

Just imagine, elderly lady/gent going to sell her house and go into retirement flat or sheltered accommodation.  She/he has never driven (or has given up driving), never been abroad (apart maybe in the old days when you could get a temporary passport from the PO).  So she/he has to shell out on a passport to prove who she/he is!!  Why could a letter from a Doctor/Solicitor/Vicar be proof?
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« Reply #7681 on: 18:49:36, 23-09-2008 »

Can you get him registered at his other grandmother's, Milly, and then send in a change of address later (they might have less stringent ID requirements for that, especially if you said he'd only just moved from the other address)? Just a thought ...

He hadn't just moved from his other grandmother's address.  He'd been living rough for a while and she has moved herself since the address on his licence, unfortunately.

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« Reply #7682 on: 19:02:33, 23-09-2008 »

So, what about a Doctor's letter, Milly? He's registered there at your address. A GP signature is acceptable on the back of a Passport photograph. Surely a letterhead  with confirmation that your step-son is a patient would be acceptable? Otherwise this is red tape  disappearing up it's own backside!!
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« Reply #7683 on: 19:18:07, 23-09-2008 »

They don't accept doctors', or vicars', or solicitors' letters nowadays to open a bank account.

They've told me to bring a valid passport or picture driving licence with the up-to-date address and preferably confirmation from the Town Hall that he is now on the electoral roll.  The banks are all linked directly on to the Town Hall website but they haven't put him on the computer yet, when she looked - even though they had adjusted my direct debit payments with immediate effect. 

Little Britain had it so right....."Computer says No..."

To do her justice, the woman seemed very embarrassed about it all.  She said "I'm so sorry, I don't make the rules."  Roll Eyes

P.S.  I've just been looking at the driving licence form.  We can change the address and renew the photo for £17.50, so I've filled that in accordingly.  I'm going to get him a passport in any event, I've decided now, in case we decide to go away again this Christmas.  He'll obviously be coming with us.  All the same it's going to be another couple of weeks or so before it all comes through and we can open an account for him. 
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« Reply #7684 on: 19:24:11, 23-09-2008 »

I've just checked Internet Banking and Alliance & Leicester said "all you need is an email account and internet access" and then of course clicking apply it said "Driving Licence, Passport, Inland Revenue letter with NI Number".  'Fraid he'll have to get new DL or Passport Mills  Sad

Anyway, enjoy your Bridge Evening.  Remember Big Brother is watching you and mind you pay tax on your winnings!
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« Reply #7685 on: 19:57:40, 23-09-2008 »

No help to you in this case, Mills, but passport holders can update a Driving Licence on line, without having to supply a new photo: once you're in the loop, it all starts to make more sense: it's the getting into the loop in the first place which is such a palaver.
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« Reply #7686 on: 21:42:42, 23-09-2008 »

How anybody could be expected to produce anything vaguely artistic (be it in ballet or gymnastics) against such an incipiently vile (but all-too-common) accompaniment
Huh Why incipiently?

Vile - right from the very beginning (and also to the very end)!

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« Reply #7687 on: 23:01:40, 23-09-2008 »

Anyway, enjoy your Bridge Evening.  Remember Big Brother is watching you and mind you pay tax on your winnings!

I lost 8p.  Cry  Cry Cry (Do I really have to pay 40% tax on it?  Shocked)
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« Reply #7688 on: 23:10:39, 23-09-2008 »

Anyway, enjoy your Bridge Evening.  Remember Big Brother is watching you and mind you pay tax on your winnings!

I lost 8p.  Cry  Cry Cry (Do I really have to pay 40% tax on it?  Shocked)

If I wasn't so bad at maths ........... I think you owe Gordon Brown ....... money!  But don't we all! Cheesy
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« Reply #7689 on: 23:16:45, 23-09-2008 »

Milly - sorry to hear about your banking travails.
I was just thinking that it demonstrates quite clearly how much trouble the homeless have finding work, opening bank accounts, etc. if someone like your teenager is having such trouble despite having a roof over his head and people to help him achieve all of these things.

I don't really have a grump for this evening. I gave myself the evening off and ignored the mountain of ironing which is sat giving me baleful looks.
I may have a whisky then go to bed.
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« Reply #7690 on: 23:23:30, 23-09-2008 »

I gave myself the evening off and ignored the mountain of ironing which is sat giving me baleful looks.

Oh no, not another ironing enthusiast hh? Shocked
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« Reply #7691 on: 23:27:24, 23-09-2008 »

I'm not a midnight ironer (though I have in the past). I am enthusiastic about the finished product but not so much about the process. Though there is something to be said for having something mind-numbing on the tv and just ironing and ironing and ironing until it's all gone.
If I'm really honest, I haven't ironed anything (other than the occasional shirt) since maybe February...
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« Reply #7692 on: 06:48:03, 24-09-2008 »

My mind is also numb and could use some ironing. Do you do house calls?
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« Reply #7693 on: 08:43:48, 24-09-2008 »

My mind is also numb and could use some ironing. Do you do house calls?

I do housekeeping Martle!
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« Reply #7694 on: 20:53:11, 24-09-2008 »

Trains.  Not really a grump but i have started to use the train to go to work.  However, i owed some time so tonight i stayed late to make it up and after 5.30, the trains are more infrequent so i got back here at 6.35 rather than about 5.45.  Oh well, at least i don't owe any more time now!
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