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Antheil
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« Reply #7980 on: 18:56:19, 16-10-2008 »

I got a letter today from my energy supplier saying gas prices would be increased by 29.2% and electricity by 19.2%  Shocked

Luckily I am only home at weekends and in the evenings so am not a big consumer.  I did not know you could get rates capped.  I will investigate at the weekend (after I have purchased several pairs of thermal vests, knickers and socks!)
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« Reply #7981 on: 19:08:14, 16-10-2008 »

You can get your rates capped.  I investigated on Uswitch.com this afternoon and very nearly took a cheaper offer of a saving of £30 per month if I got both gas and electricity from the same supplier.  I just stopped short to think about it.....and then I read some of the reviews of EDF, who were the cheapest for me.   Not good.  Bad customer service, wrongly estimated bills, not turning up to read meters.  Only 63% said they were satisfied.  I've held off, mainly because I'm considering whether capping them now when they're at the top end will be a disadvantage if fuel prices start to fall for any reason.

I just don't know what on earth to do really.  As Mary says, it's such a waste of time and energy having to shop around.

Does anyone else think that fuel might come down in price?  Petrol has.

The attitude of the man at British Gas was awful.  He very condescendingly told me to get a pen and paper and he would "talk me through it".  He then became very technical.  How on earth would today's poorly educated youngsters, or indeed the elderly and infirm understand it.  He was doing the calculations on-screen of course - but so was I on my on-screen calculator, otherwise I wouldn't have kept up.    I did understand, much to his obvious surprise,  but he was bluddy patronising.  When he finished I said that I would now shop around and see if I could find a cheaper option at which he said "Well that's your prerogative.  Would you like me to tell you the price of other units from other suppliers?"  I replied that I was perfectly capable of finding that out for myself thank you, rang off politely and logged on to Uswitch.com.  All the same, how would the average OAP, or educationally-challenged person cope with someone like that?

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« Reply #7982 on: 19:24:01, 16-10-2008 »

The other thing Milly is that you or I can investigate online, but suppose you are an OAP without internet access, are you going to ring around the various suppliers (assuming you know who they are and how do you find out?) and run up your phone bills?  No, of course not, you just buy an extra hot water bottle and go to bed early with an extra duvet.
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« Reply #7983 on: 19:27:28, 16-10-2008 »

Thank goodness I bought us both lots of thermals to go to Lapland.  They'll come in very useful from now on!  The teenager will have to make his own arrangements.  Grin
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« Reply #7984 on: 19:30:56, 16-10-2008 »


Does anyone else think that fuel might come down in price?  Petrol has.

The attitude of the man at British Gas was awful.  He very condescendingly told me to get a pen and paper and he would "talk me through it".  He then became very technical.  How on earth would today's poorly educated youngsters, or indeed the elderly and infirm understand it.  He was doing the calculations on-screen of course - but so was I on my on-screen calculator, otherwise I wouldn't have kept up.    I did understand, much to his obvious surprise,  but he was bluddy patronising.  When he finished I said that I would now shop around and see if I could find a cheaper option at which he said "Well that's your prerogative.  Would you like me to tell you the price of other units from other suppliers?"  I replied that I was perfectly capable of finding that out for myself thank you, rang off politely and logged on to Uswitch.com.  All the same, how would the average OAP, or educationally-challenged person cope with someone like that?


Natural gas prices are falling in a way that is comparable to oil - see http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/ngw/ngupdate.asp - and while the price paid by end-consumers will inevitably fall by less than the cost of the raw materials, they should fall faster than petrol prices as about half the pump price for petrol is tax.  When we consumers are likely to see this is anyone's guess, and I'm not sure how long it will last, but it does strike me as particularly cynical to be adding huge price hikes to monthly bills at a time when raw material prices are falling so fast.

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« Reply #7985 on: 19:34:49, 16-10-2008 »

I think my capped prices from British Gas included a guarantee that if prices went down, they would honour that. I can't see that mentioned in their latest deal.

I get my electricity from ScottishPower for some reason - it used to be called something else. They have offered to cap prices at a charge of £1 a month! I must phone them sometime and see if they have any sort of guarantee about lower prices.

I'm sort of half-listening to the broadcast of the concert Simon Rattle did with the RLPO, and wondering how anyone could think, as at least three critics did, that the Brett Dean piece was like Britten. No resemblance that I can hear except for the habit of repeating words, which was shared by Tippett and Purcell.
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« Reply #7986 on: 11:56:05, 17-10-2008 »

That's where Britten's  and Tippet's routes lay, Mary, wa with Henry Purcell. (Just in case you didnt know!)
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« Reply #7987 on: 12:12:40, 17-10-2008 »

That's where Britten's  and Tippet's routes lay, Mary, wa with Henry Purcell. (Just in case you didnt know!)

I do know that, BBM Grin Grin, but some won't.
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« Reply #7988 on: 00:39:36, 18-10-2008 »

which was shared by Tippett and Purcell.

..and Handel
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« Reply #7989 on: 00:50:52, 18-10-2008 »

which was shared by Tippett and Purcell.

..and Handel

And Tchaikovski, Saint-Saens, Lully, Corelli, Barber and Ethel Smyth and a host of others.  But does it matter?
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« Reply #7990 on: 07:48:11, 18-10-2008 »

Indeed it does not. Just interesting.
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« Reply #7991 on: 10:02:04, 18-10-2008 »

I mentioned Handel because I seem to remember David Greer saying something about how Handel looked at a lot of Purcell's choruses when he was working in London, and that there is a traceable influence in the way that he writes for choruses in the oratorios. Also, since Tippett and Britten were both consciously influenced by Purcell I thought that this was an interesting link... I've just done myself out of a good Musical Connections quiz.
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« Reply #7992 on: 10:10:36, 18-10-2008 »

You should read this omth's BBC MM. Has a full 8 page history of music in England and it mentions about Purcell's influence on Handel. Indeed, it mentions how Handel uses the trumpets and the choruses in his oratorios of Saul and Joshua. Handel, I think saod how you just cant compose a tune like Purcell could. or words to that effect.
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« Reply #7993 on: 10:21:47, 18-10-2008 »

There's a downside to paperless billing, I've just looked at my emails and the only 2 new ones are links to my phone and electicity bills Sad
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« Reply #7994 on: 10:24:35, 18-10-2008 »

I wonder which composer holds the record for the most often repeated word? I seem to remember that Purcell has nine consecutive "drop"s in Music for a While. There's always the Hallelujah chorus as well, but that is slightly different somehow.
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