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Author Topic: Meeting Life's Challenges & Upsets  (Read 26265 times)
Milly Jones
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« Reply #915 on: 11:52:56, 30-05-2008 »

"Presumably though, nobody else had noticed the man to begin with either, otherwise they would have said something?  It sounds like he might have been a lost cause to start with anyway if they think he died at the wheel.  I should think there's a reason why it happened the way it did, somewhere in the grand scheme of things."

No, they had noticed him but obviously hadn't felt able to do anything about it.  The woman that shouted at me for my efforts in rescuing the dog knew he was there.

I should think he probably was a lost cause.  CPR isn't always effective anyway.  I've never personally seen anyone start breathing with just that - it seems to always need a defibrillator.  All you're really doing with CPR is keeping everything oxygenised to a degree till help arrives.  Also, I would be very dubious about beginning it after the brain had been starved of oxygen for some minutes.  You have to think about the repercussions.  The family wouldn't want you to bring back a "vegetable" for the rest of his life.

All the same, it did look as though I was putting the dog first - which of course I wouldn't have done had I realised.  My next door neighbour at the time, who is still a very good friend, still occasionally ribs me about the occasion.  He seems to be able to see a funny side which I have to say does escape me.

Like "the grand scheme of things".  An understanding of that escapes me too.  God certainly moves in mysterious ways.
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« Reply #916 on: 12:16:09, 30-05-2008 »

Also, I would be very dubious about beginning it after the brain had been starved of oxygen for some minutes.  You have to think about the repercussions.  The family wouldn't want you to bring back a "vegetable" for the rest of his life...

...Like "the grand scheme of things".  An understanding of that escapes me too.  God certainly moves in mysterious ways.
I think you've probably hit on an important point there - I'm sure he's better off where he is than hooked up to a machine.  Smiley
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« Reply #917 on: 15:26:44, 30-05-2008 »

I remember (as much as I do anything) a Jewish parable about a boy who was eaten by a bear. When the villagers asked the nearest prophet why such a thing should happen to an innocent child, he told them that God knew the child's future and was sparing him from growing up to become an unspeakably wicked monster.

I don't remember any Jewish parables about why God allows some people to grow up to become unspeakably wicked monsters though.
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« Reply #918 on: 07:28:00, 04-06-2008 »

I have to go to a funeral this morning and I'm absolutely dreading it. It's hardly the first one I've been to but I suspect it's going to be a very emotional one. The person was a patient in her early thirties who was with us for 10 months - quite a long time in hospice terms. She had no family around her but a lot of friends. She was a kind, thoughtful and lovely person. She touched all of us who came into contact with her. I just know it's going to be difficult but I feel I really must go. I promised one of our volunteers that I would. She rather took on a 'mothering' role with her since her mother was absent, consequently she's devastated. Sometimes I wish I didn't do the job I do.
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« Reply #919 on: 07:55:09, 04-06-2008 »

Much sympathy Mort.  I think you're very courageous to do the job you do. 
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« Reply #920 on: 08:14:51, 04-06-2008 »

Would your patient have wanted anyone to dread her funeral, Mort? Of course there's the huge sense of loss, and perhaps the reminder of our own mortality (not to mention the memories of other funerals) but isn't this also, and even primarily, a celebration both of her life and the end of her suffering?
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« Reply #921 on: 08:22:43, 04-06-2008 »

Thanks for that Milly. The job's fine, it's just the aftermath that can be a bit difficult sometimes. She was just so young. I know but life isn't fair but ...

Ron, just seen your post. Yes, of course all your observations are right and, no, she wouldn't have wanted anyone to dread this but that feeling is almost unavoidable. I suppose it's seeing the pain that her friends will be feeling that makes my heart sink. Thank God that her pain is over, it's the pain of the living that can be difficult to witness.
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« Reply #922 on: 08:39:08, 04-06-2008 »

Sympathy, Mort. I just hope that the funeral is in some way cathartic, as funerals quite often can be, for all of you.  Kiss
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« Reply #923 on: 09:04:25, 04-06-2008 »

Oh, Mort, I do sympathise. It's so easy to feel you have to take on responsibility for other people's pain as well as dealing with your own sadness at her loss. I hope the occasion will be one where you can say goodbye in your own way, as others will in theirs.
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« Reply #924 on: 09:06:33, 04-06-2008 »

Mort,

In circumstances like this, where an early death was inevitable through a terminal illness, although there is the pain of losing someone you love there is also the relief that the suffering has come to an end isn't there?  Echoing what Ron has said although there is grief there must also be celebration of the lovely person she evidently was.

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« Reply #925 on: 09:21:30, 04-06-2008 »

Mort,

I hope the funeral goes well and is more thankful than grief-ridden.  Remember our thoughts are with you.

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« Reply #926 on: 16:20:27, 04-06-2008 »

Thanks to all for their thoughts. It was, of course, a sad occasion and, I feel, far too soon for her peer group (30s) to celebrating her life. They were mourning their loss as is their right. Funerals are for the living, not the dead.

However, she arranged a 'reception' for everyone afterwards, thereby uniting people who had never met eachother, enabling everyone to talk. I think that was probably quite healing for all concerned.

On a lighter note, by the end of it all I was utterly unable to walk in my shoes (what made me think wearing heels was a good idea?) and so the last glimpse people saw of me was Mort strolling happily barefoot towards the minicab, treacherous shoes swinging in her hand ...

While I was there I noticed they seem to have a Celebrities Corner. First up was Eric Coates, followed by Marc Bolan (twice), Keith Moon, Bud Flanigan, Norman Vaughn, Tubby Hayes, Ronnie Scott and Bernie Winter. Gosh, what exalted company I keep!
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« Reply #927 on: 18:25:06, 04-06-2008 »

Well done Mort.   Smiley

I agree with the bit about mourning the loss as is their right.  I remember when I was bereaved, people would try and stop me grieving.  I wish I had £1 for every time someone earnestly said - "Now he wouldn't want you to be upset would he?"  Honestly!!!  Whilst obviously that would be a true statement, what on earth did people expect?  I'm hardly going to pick myself up, dust myself down and say "Right then - that's that, so time to move on.  Mustn't get upset."
It just isn't realistic.
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« Reply #928 on: 20:55:40, 04-06-2008 »

You are so right, Milly.

Mort, I hope you are feeling OK.

I know how unhappy funerals made me when I was a Mac nurse. I hardly went to any, but when I did (usually for just the reasons you went to this one) I grieved for all the patients that I had known and that had died. It used to break my heart.

Working with the terminally ill is incredibly tough, but thanks to people like you, Mort, those people have an
 easier time than they might have had.

Take care,

 - and a stiff drink!

x Jan x

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« Reply #929 on: 21:13:21, 04-06-2008 »

I hope you are feeling ok Morticia.
I always bless people like you (and Jan).
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