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« Reply #300 on: 17:26:27, 21-06-2007 » |
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LOL! I keep promising NOT to post -- but it seems here that M. Grew's typo was intentional. Its repetition does indeed suggest as much, but it offers no rationale for it; it is, however, a not atypical example of Member Grew's bizarre habit of spelling composers' names in ways that appear to have no obvious (or indeed any other) justification, as far as I can tell. Perhaps Member Grew might like to take an evening off Stock(l)hausen and instead attend Jonathan Powell's piano recital at St. John's, Smith Square tomorrow evening, whereupon he (or should I write "they"?) may partake of the delights of Ivels, Whilte, Alkaln, Skryablin and two sonatas by some Scots composer who's so far managed to keep the "l" out of his name, all neatly topped off with the world première of a transcription by Soralbji of the closing scene from one of Straulss's greatest operas. Or perhaps not... Best, Alistair |
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some Scots composer who's so far managed to keep the "l" out of his name What, you mean you've not got a sister called Paris? I suddenly feel less desperate to meet you, Alistair. Nothing personal of course  |
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« Reply #302 on: 17:52:51, 21-06-2007 » |
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Maybe he just changed it to keep face in the light of these recent scandals.
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« Reply #303 on: 18:02:08, 21-06-2007 » |
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Pardon the invasion from another thread, but please remember that Member Hinton is a Latin historian.
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« Reply #304 on: 18:14:37, 21-06-2007 » |
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some Scots composer who's so far managed to keep the "l" out of his name What, you mean you've not got a sister called Paris? So sorry to disappoint you, but I've not got a sister at all. I suddenly feel less desperate to meet you, Alistair. Nothing personal of course I didn't realise that you had actually been "desperate" to meet me, but why not come to St. John's, Smith Square tomorrow anyway, for even if you find it less imperative to meet me, there'll be lots else to preoccupy you... Best, Alistair |
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« Reply #305 on: 18:16:27, 21-06-2007 » |
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Maybe he just changed it to keep face in the light of these recent scandals.
No - I did it to keep myself out of prison, actually; I have a concert to go to tomorrow and didn't want to miss it for any reason, including enforced incarceration. See you there, perhaps... Anyway, hopefully an "l" in my forename might be enough to keep the Grewls happy... Best, Alistair |
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« Reply #306 on: 19:32:42, 21-06-2007 » |
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Its repetition does indeed suggest as much, but it offers no rationale for it; it is, however, a not atypical example of Member Grew's bizarre habit of spelling composers' names in ways that appear to have no obvious (or indeed any other) justification, as far as I can tell.
The inclusion of the 'L', to be charitable to M. Grew, refers to a German idiomatic usage, especially in Bavaria but also in other parts of the south, to lend a diminutive and folksy dimension to words. Thus Laib (bread loaf) becomes Laibl, Bach becomes Baechle, and Dirne becomes Dirndl. In this case, it would seem diminutive but also mildly patronizing. That is what I read as the intent. And best wishes for your concert, Latin historian! |
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Maybe he just changed it to keep face in the light of these recent scandals.
No - I did it to keep myself out of prison, actually; I have a concert to go to tomorrow and didn't want to miss it for any reason, including enforced incarceration. See you there, perhaps... I heard that Paris may also be making a showing; she has quite the appetite for Sorabji so I've heard. |
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« Reply #308 on: 21:02:51, 21-06-2007 » |
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Its repetition does indeed suggest as much, but it offers no rationale for it; it is, however, a not atypical example of Member Grew's bizarre habit of spelling composers' names in ways that appear to have no obvious (or indeed any other) justification, as far as I can tell.
The inclusion of the 'L', to be charitable to M. Grew, refers to a German idiomatic usage, especially in Bavaria but also in other parts of the south, to lend a diminutive and folksy dimension to words. Thus Laib (bread loaf) becomes Laibl, Bach becomes Baechle, and Dirne becomes Dirndl. In this case, it would seem diminutive but also mildly patronizing. That is what I read as the intent. Yes - and thanks for the conclusion, which sounds pretty plausible to me. And best wishes for your concert, Latin historian!
Many thanks - although I am not the kind of historian as which I am described! - and, since all the composers present on tomorrow night's programme are non-German (English, Russian, American, Spanish, Parsi and Scottish) except richard Strauss (into whose name the attempted insertion of an "l" seems harder and more pointless than in the case of any of the others, as I hope I demonstrated earlier), it won't be a an unduly Grew-"l"-ing event. Do come along, why don't you?! Best, Alistair |
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« Reply #309 on: 21:09:47, 21-06-2007 » |
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Maybe he just changed it to keep face in the light of these recent scandals.
No - I did it to keep myself out of prison, actually; I have a concert to go to tomorrow and didn't want to miss it for any reason, including enforced incarceration. See you there, perhaps... I heard that Paris may also be making a showing; she has quite the appetite for Sorabji so I've heard. I'd not heard that myself, so am duly appreciative of the warning; I'm sure that she'll be able to afford her ticket although, not having quite caught up with the latest news on her front (if you'll pardon and overlook the expression), I am left wondering if her attendance would necessitate her breaking out of jail first. Still, that would be her problem rather than mine. If, however, you succeed in securing incontrovertible evidence of her proposed attendance and publicise it sufficiently well, I think that we'll get a full house (n times over, probably), so please go ahead and do your worst - I mean best... I don't know much about her appetite, but if Sorabji alone is insufficient to satisfy and satiate it, she will at least have the prospect of a head on a platter to compensate (though quite what Jean-Baptiste's tête might taste like I have less than no idea, however it may be served). At least she might feel relatively at home for some 25 minutes or so of the programme in any case, since Alkan was himself a most distinguished Parisian... Best, Alistair |
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« Reply #311 on: 21:58:38, 21-06-2007 » |
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Alistair,
Paris Hilton or no, I'd love to be there, but I'm sure that you of all people will be aware that Carnoustie isn't exactly just round the corner, so it remains just a wish; wishes, however, are more easily conveyable than people, so I'll make sure that my best are on their way for one and all tomorrow...
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« Reply #312 on: 22:33:41, 21-06-2007 » |
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Alistair,
Paris Hilton or no, I'd love to be there, but I'm sure that you of all people will be aware that Carnoustie isn't exactly just round the corner, so it remains just a wish; wishes, however, are more easily conveyable than people, so I'll make sure that my best are on their way for one and all tomorrow...
Well, many thanks indeed for those - but "Carnoustie"? Quoi? Je ne comprends pas... Best, Alistair |
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« Reply #313 on: 22:36:19, 21-06-2007 » |
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Nice one! I'm not sure whether the singer of Sorabji's songs is meant to be representative of Elizabeth Farnum or Sarah Leonard, but we'll just overlook that one, methinks; it might nevertheless be worth noting that Sorabji's first published songs, the Trois Poèmes of 1919, were first performed (by Marthe Martine and the compose) in - er - Paris... Best, Alistair |
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« Reply #314 on: 22:49:33, 21-06-2007 » |
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Alistair,
Paris Hilton or no, I'd love to be there, but I'm sure that you of all people will be aware that Carnoustie isn't exactly just round the corner, so it remains just a wish; wishes, however, are more easily conveyable than people, so I'll make sure that my best are on their way for one and all tomorrow...
Well, many thanks indeed for those - but "Carnoustie"? Quoi? Je ne comprends pas... Best, Alistair Parce-que j'habite en Écosse, mon ami. Ça n'est pas la science des rockets, je crois... |
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