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« on: 23:08:40, 01-12-2007 »

Now Spinning: a redemptive encore presentation of Michael Tippett's Concerto for Orchestra. I do indeed find it very much to my liking. But a little concerned that I am not hearing something particularly characteristic of Tippett (not that that reduces my enjoyment). What is the tippical Tippett?
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« Reply #1 on: 23:56:42, 01-12-2007 »

A masterly question, dishy, to which there is no real answer beyond 'expected the unexpected'. 

It's very characteristic of that period Tippett, but earlier Tippett sounds quite different; more approachable, but even that splits into two distinct periods: the early works, based on modal harmonies, full of counterpoint: referencing British folk music, Tudor vocal music, Beethoven, often using springy additive rhythms; works from this first group would include the Concerto for Double String Orchestra, the First Piano Sonata and the oratorio A Child of our Time: the end point is probably his First Symphony. The second group derive from work towards, through and beyond his first opera, The Midsummer Marriage; music of exhilarating lyricism, magic and vigour: works from this group apart from the opera incude the Fantasia Concertante on a Theme of Corelli, the Piano Concerto and the Second Symphony, although the latter is starting to prepare for the huge change in style that came with the second opera, King Priam: there are three satellite works which relate directly to this, the Second Piano Sonata, the Songs for Achilles, and the Concerto for Orchestra, and all three quote directly from the opera; a very spare, lean style which owes something to the Stravinsky of Agon.

With the third opera, The Knot Garden, and the Third Symphony his style changes again, though it's a more gradual change in which features of his earlier periods combine to form new hybrids, and bring a final flush of idiosyncratic works: two further operas, generally held to be below the others in standard, a Fourth Symphony, more sonatas and string quartets, a big choral piece The Mask of Time, a Triple Concerto, an extended piece for solo soprano and orchestra, and a final orchestral score, The Rose Lake.

Works from opposite ends of his life seem to have nothing in common when heard in isolation, but if you follow a path through adjacent periods it can be fascinating to see how he develops, in the main organically, apart from the huge change with Priam. Composing didn't come easy to him: often he has to wrestle with his material: he sets his sights very high, and sometimes doesn't quite achieve. But there is a huge amount of memorable music in there, music which has grabbed some of us more possessively than that of almost any other composer. In truth, no single work represents him, every discovery reveals a new side, attitude or soundworld.

Lucky you, you have a rather wonderful journey ahead of you.
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« Reply #2 on: 00:34:07, 02-12-2007 »

Thanks for the tipping, RD!

Considering that the Stravinsky of Agon is the only Stravinsky I like, I am indeed looking forard to a forway into Tippett's music. I hope Stravomile phartle isn't listening.
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« Reply #3 on: 08:38:25, 02-12-2007 »

I couldn't possibly improve on Ron's tipping but perhaps I could just tippetty-toe in to put in a word for one of my favourite Tippett pieces, The Vision of St Augustine. It isn't a piece that gets performed very often but, whether you end up liking it or not, it certainly counts as extremely 'Tippetty'. No one else could have written it and no one else would have included the odd moment when you just want to throttle him. It is 1963, the work after the Concerto for Orchestra, and still showing some (but perhaps more distant) signs of being within the planetary influence of King Priam.
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« Reply #4 on: 10:03:33, 02-12-2007 »

GG,

Yes, I shouldn't have omitted that; a weird and wonderful work, with the added advantge of having words not fromTippett's own pen. As a sideline to Dishy I should add that Tippett was a very eclectic intellectual, widely read and embracing a somewhat kaleidoscopic personal mythology which borrowed from many cultures (the source for his last opera, New Year, for example, was a TV play, and his last major choral work, the Mask of Time, a cross between a humanist credo and concentrated examination of mankind's achievements, was similarly inspired by TV, though this time, a major documentary series). There are indeed moments in his own libretti for virtually every work where the language jars, but they're surface annoyances rather than major flaws. Recordings of his works aren't exactly thick on the ground; but for those seeking an overview there are two useful collections from Universal, now available at bargian price, if you know where to look. One contains six discs and covers all four symphonies, the frst three piano sonatas and string quartets, the three important string-based concertante works plus a few extras: the other, on four discs, includes a selection of his choral and vocal music including the oratorio A Child of Our Time (his first major success, and probably still his most widely performed piece, though I'm aware of at least one other Tippett devotee on this board who doesn't care for it greatly) and the opera The Knot Garden.

This still means that some essential works need to be found elsewhere; the Piano Concerto either from the Ogdon recording on EMI, or the brand new Hyperion set of all his piano music with Steven Osborne. The first two operas are available from Lyrita and Chandos respectively. The Mask of Time is out of print, though available on the web still. which also seems to be the case with The Vision of St Augustine.
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« Reply #5 on: 10:22:25, 02-12-2007 »

I suspect he must also have been if not the only at least one of the first composers to bring to the operatic stage the phrase 'you mother-f------ b------'. Entirely suited to its dramatic context, I might add. From The Ice Break, I vaguely remember. Which also includes a Black Power-inspired athlete singing a paraphase on Monteverdi's Nigra sum et formosa. Clever, that.

I haven't had much luck with Tippett beyond the third and fourth symphonies, the dances from Midsummer Marriage and King Priam. Must try harder. Thanks for the tips!
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« Reply #6 on: 10:52:10, 02-12-2007 »

I'd certainly have a try at the Second Symphony, Oz, one of my favourite symphonies of all time, and incidentally his last major work where forms from the past are adhered to. Tippett claims to have mapped out the entire thing, virtually bar by bar, before a single note of music was written. Thereafter he adopts a freer-form, mosaic pattern of construction, seen first in the Concerto for Orchestra and the Second Piano Sonata, where the exposition might be seen as the laying out of motivic cells, and the development as permutations of overlays and fragmented juxtaposition of the stated material.

 I'd strongly recommend Colin Davis's LSO version of the symphony: Hickox really never captures the verve and rhythmic élan of the piece, and the composer's own recording was made when he perhaps a bit too long in the tooth for comfort. There was a performance from the Aldeburgh Festival a couple of years back when young Ed Gardner stepped in at short notice to replace an ailing Ollie Knussen. I've heard several conductors come to grief in this piece (Boult, at the first performance, famously had to stop, apologise and start again), but the boy done good: it's a fabulous, taut reading, with tempi well-judged and vitality intact. I only mention this because I have reason to believe that you may be able to access this performance  Wink.
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« Reply #7 on: 11:03:37, 02-12-2007 »

I'd strongly recommend Colin Davis's LSO version of the symphony

So would I. And The Vision of St Augustine, haven't listened to that for years.
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« Reply #8 on: 12:23:54, 02-12-2007 »

A thread called "Tippett Tips" ? Thank you all for your inputses, osggrbrd
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« Reply #9 on: 12:40:44, 02-12-2007 »

Presumably to be followed-up by tips about Philip Glass, in a thread called PG Tips...
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« Reply #10 on: 12:45:54, 02-12-2007 »

Your suggestion happily actioned, CD.

I can see that I'm going to have to have a dig round the stores soon. Mention of The Vision of St Augustine reminds me that apart from the composer's own recording and a live issue by the BBC (conducted by David Atherton, another conductor whose brain is wired for Tippett) both with J S-Q, there was a repeat archive broadcast of the premiere some time back, which I certainly recorded. It has the original soloist, D F-D: and he surpasses even J S-Q to my ears - his voice in the higher ranges has a lighter, more honeyed quality, freer and perhaps more agile: very much worth hearing. Somewhere there should be the premieres of Priam, the Third Symphony and The Mask of Time, too.... 
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« Reply #11 on: 14:45:55, 02-12-2007 »

The Juilliard String-Quartet performs The Vision of St. Augustine? Who did the arrangement?
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« Reply #12 on: 21:53:21, 02-12-2007 »

CD, so much wisdom above; but I'll underscore King Priam, the 2nd Symphony and the Piano Concerto for you (being a Chafing Dish), rather than anything else, to start with. Remarkable stuff.  Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: 22:19:15, 02-12-2007 »

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« Reply #14 on: 23:19:29, 02-12-2007 »

I don't know much Tippett, so can't comment on this being Tippettyical of his output, but may I put in a word for "Little Music for Strings" and another for his String Quartet No.2?

I like them

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