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I'm surprised,as I was last week live- amore than competent 9 but sleepwalking through the serenade. I recall AD conducting say Turnage,where he gets the idiom spot on,and his definitive way with the last night,and Iwonderif the guy isjust not overworked?Ironic inthat he left auntie for the presumably better conditions of Chicago lyricopera.
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« Reply #46 on: 19:20:24, 30-08-2008 » |
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I do remember a very good programme in a TV series called Masterworks, where Andrew Davis conducted the Tallis Fantasia in Gloucester Cathedral; part documentary, followed by performance. I wish the Beeb would repeat it.
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« Reply #47 on: 19:26:36, 30-08-2008 » |
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I know that Warren-Green Tallis well (if Andy D thinks I'm awash with the 5th symphony, he'd be horrified at my wodge of Tallis F's): pity it uses such a small ensemble, but it's certainly among the top readings.
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« Reply #48 on: 19:30:27, 30-08-2008 » |
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It was my very first recording of the Tallis, having first heard it in concert in Winchester Catherdral, and the whole disc is marvellous. I think the Barbirolli is very special, but it's that Constantin Silvestri recording (partly because of the Winchester connection) which is my favourite. You can feel the building as the sound envelops you.
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« Reply #49 on: 19:34:07, 30-08-2008 » |
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I do remember a very good programme in a TV series called Masterworks, where Andrew Davis conducted the Tallis Fantasia in Gloucester Cathedral; part documentary, followed by performance. I wish the Beeb would repeat it.
The performance was issued on a BBCMM CD - on my shelves here - and I should have a video of the broadcast in storage - somewhere... |
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« Reply #50 on: 19:45:09, 30-08-2008 » |
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I imagine a BBC channel dedicated to the Arts where programmes like Masterworks could get repeat broadcasts, along with live concerts, recitals throughout the season, interspersed with opera, ballet, classic drama, intelligent discussions...a place to think. What's that you say? BBC4?  |
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« Reply #51 on: 20:04:58, 30-08-2008 » |
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Credit to the Beeb over the presentation this evening, which isn't half as nauseating as some have been and the 'interval feature' with Clemency Burton-Hill and the links with Tess of the D'Urbervilles, Stonehenge and Winchester actually added something to my understanding/ appreciation of the work.* I see Tess is being serialised on the television soon.
* And consequently the only interval bit from this season I shan't edit out in transferring to DVD.
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« Reply #52 on: 22:01:39, 30-08-2008 » |
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The general feeling in Autoharp Towers was that Davis didn't deliver that wonderful a 9th. What was good was the brisk tempo in the 1st movement, but immediately spoiled by an overfast tempo in the 2nd. Lots of opportunities missed and not a great deal of expression - he just seems to deliver the notes much of the time. And he doesn't do commas and silences does he?
That leader had a bad night. All those horrible swoops and dodgy intonation.
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« Reply #53 on: 23:44:09, 30-08-2008 » |
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I know that Warren-Green Tallis well (if Andy D thinks I'm awash with the 5th symphony, he'd be horrified at my wodge of Tallis F's): pity it uses such a small ensemble, but it's certainly among the top readings.
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« Reply #54 on: 20:59:59, 07-11-2008 » |
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I've attanded two splendid concerts at the RFH within the past week as Richard Hickox's cycle with the Philharmonia Orchestra ended. Sunday's marathon included Nos.9, 6 and 5 (in that order), plus the Tallis Fantasia (preceded by the original Tallis melody) and the Three Shakespeare Songs. Yesterday, we had Nos.3 and 4, with Dona nobis pacem most effectively placed in between them. Lisa Milne and Alan Opie were fine soloists, but it was the choral singing which was quite outstanding. I found the finale of the Dona nobis pacem incredibly moving and thought it showed pre-echoes of Britten's War Requiem, with it's use of poetry and biblical quotation. The orchestral playing was of the highest order - what a woodwind line-up the Phil have, led by Kenneth Smith's brilliant flute playing - both in the 'Pastoral' and the 4th, the abrupt 'door slamming' conclusion of which brought the cycle to a close. Full marks to all round for putting on this cycle - the four RFH concerts plus the Sadlers Wells Pilgrim's Progress - and let's hope it's not too long before these works are scheduled again (and not just the Sea Symphony and the 5th, which seem to be the most regularly performed).
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« Reply #55 on: 23:24:08, 07-11-2008 » |
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I do remember a very good programme in a TV series called Masterworks, where Andrew Davis conducted the Tallis Fantasia in Gloucester Cathedral; part documentary, followed by performance. I wish the Beeb would repeat it.
What good fortune (for you, sir) that I happened upon this post. That performance you mention was recorded for a BBC Music Magazine cover CD release (Vol. 7, No. 11 - for the anoraks among us), and I recently uploaded it for members at another forum. I'll spare you the lengthy post I wrote to accompany the upload, and instead just give you the link to it: Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis. (FWIW, I reckon this the best performance of the work that's ever been recorded - even better than Davis' earlier, superb effort for Teldec, now reissued on Apex.) I know that Warren-Green Tallis well ... it's certainly among the top readings.
Geraint Lewis begs to differ. In his Gramophone survey of the 39 available recordings of this work, he dismissed Warren-Green's reading with a single word: 'anonymous'. FK |
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« Reply #56 on: 23:31:44, 07-11-2008 » |
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Oh yes, I almost forgot - an answer to the OP.
Well, as I'm a fan particularly of Nos. 2, 5, 6, 8 and 9, I'll give my recommendations for these only. I'd choose Vernon Handley on EMI for Nos. 2, 8 and 9, Andrew Davis on Teldec (or Apex) for No. 6, and Bryden Thomson on Chandos for his utterly brilliant reading of No. 5; his interpretation being so good, IMO, that I never want to hear anyone else perform this. The rest I can take or leave.
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« Reply #57 on: 07:32:52, 08-11-2008 » |
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Many thanks, Kuhlau, for the Tallis download - what a lovely suprise to log on to first thing this morning!  |
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« Reply #58 on: 09:33:12, 08-11-2008 » |
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You're most welcome, sir. Enjoy. FK |
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« Reply #59 on: 20:01:43, 09-11-2008 » |
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I just thought I should say, while I'm catching up here and before I forget, I've been listening to the Previn RVW symphonies, and, yes, they are sveeral degrees of magnitude more involving than the Haitink.
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