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Author Topic: Re: New Moderator argument  (Read 2433 times)
Michael
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« on: 19:24:13, 20-10-2007 »

I'm not a fan of the cross linking between forums, nor the copying of threads/post, but I found this particular post interesting.

http://musicandsociety.myforum365.com/index.php?topic=129.msg2629#msg2629
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« Reply #1 on: 19:28:09, 20-10-2007 »

I am crawling out of my recent `lurking` corner to fourth or fifth Ollie for mod and to add my support for the case of having 3 Moderators. I`d be very happy to second another member as a Mod, but they haven`t put their name forward yet.
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Ian Pace
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« Reply #2 on: 19:29:55, 20-10-2007 »

Well, I am also going to come out from lurking and say that if George Garnett chooses to put his name forward, I would definitely second him, and indeed then I might think twice about the two board situation.

(with friends like that.....? Wink )
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'These acts of keeping politics out of music, however, do not prevent musicology from being a political act . . .they assure that every apolitical act assumes a greater political immediacy' - Philip Bohlman, 'Musicology as a Political Act'
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« Reply #3 on: 19:34:38, 20-10-2007 »

Thanks for that Michael, which confirms my problem with Ian prior to the split.

Hello Ian, posting again.  Roll Eyes

Quote from: Ian Pace
To be really brutally honest here, I'm not all that concerned about what a lot of average classical-music listeners think about various things

Let me just add to my 'manifesto' that I AM concerned about (or interested in) what a lot of average classical-music listeners think about various things  Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: 19:36:43, 20-10-2007 »

Well, I'll put a question to you directly, John - do you feel boards like this should also be hospitable places for those that, say, are interested in new music but not necessarily so much in the rest of the repertoire that classical-music listeners tend to favour?

(I would say that I'm more concerned with what those who are not particularly well-disposed towards classical music in general (which is, I believe, the majority of the population at least in this country) think about things. It's possible to discuss classical music without necessarily feeling the need to be an advocate for it - a situation often faced by those of us who teach or have taught in institutions where to do a music degree you do not necessarily have to have a background in, or inclination towards, classical music)
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'These acts of keeping politics out of music, however, do not prevent musicology from being a political act . . .they assure that every apolitical act assumes a greater political immediacy' - Philip Bohlman, 'Musicology as a Political Act'
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« Reply #5 on: 19:38:43, 20-10-2007 »

This all seems to be becoming incredibly complicated and even aggressive.

It seems to me that ( as in all other elections I have been involved in) there should be nominations which should be seconded and then- if it is stated that 3 members should be the administrators- 3 votes per member of the board and that ...... is that.

One vote, then another election with one vote, then another vote to decide on the 3 .... yawn, yawn, I lose the will to live, or certainly I lose any interest whatsoever in what is supposed to be a fun discussion forum for music lovers..... or have I got that wrong as well???

You are not all in the Liberal Party are you?

A
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« Reply #6 on: 19:40:54, 20-10-2007 »

Thick smoke coming from the Catholics ..
Now Now Scaley. Lets have some self moderation here otherwise I'll put myself forward ...Sad
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« Reply #7 on: 19:42:11, 20-10-2007 »

Gosh!
I will retire in  confusion

I don't think you should do that Anna! You should stay 'in the running' as a kind of 'Monster-Raving-Looney-Party equivalent'.

Just remember how important THAT party was when, upon actually BEATING David Owen's Social Democractic Party in a by-election, David Owen threw in the towel and disbanded his outfit.

But...proceed with caution!

Baz  Wink
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John W
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« Reply #8 on: 19:46:02, 20-10-2007 »

Ian,

I can honestly say I do not understand your posting above, either the first bit or the aside in parenthesis.

It should be clear by now that my stance is that R3ok remain a forum for members with a common interest in 'serious' music and NOT a forum for members with no common interest in politics.

John W
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« Reply #9 on: 19:48:12, 20-10-2007 »

I am crawling out of my recent `lurking` corner to fourth or fifth Ollie for mod and to add my support for the case of having 3 Moderators. I`d be very happy to second another member as a Mod, but they haven`t put their name forward yet.
Er, Mort, if you look at message 1 you'll see there are already four candidates.

A, if you exercise a little patience and let the process run its course, taking part if you wish, with any luck we won't have to bother ourselves with such wrangling any more.
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« Reply #10 on: 19:49:36, 20-10-2007 »

I propose Brother Pace for moderator.
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« Reply #11 on: 19:49:57, 20-10-2007 »

But John, when you say 'a common interest in 'serious' music', that designation in itself begs all sorts of questions. There have been various debates on here concerning improvised music, for example - does that count as 'serious'? And if it does, how about popular music?

With respect to 'a forum for members with no common interest in politics', I really don't understand what you mean (as it stands, it looks like you don't want it to be a forum for lots of people who aren't interested in politics)? Was that meant to be 'a forum for members with no common interest other than politics', or something else?
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« Reply #12 on: 19:50:33, 20-10-2007 »

I propose Brother Pace for moderator
He wouldn't accept even if that were serious.

(I have moderated elsewhere, in a place whose problems make anything on here or any comparable boards seem like afternoon tea with the vicar in comparison, and it's an unenviable job)
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'These acts of keeping politics out of music, however, do not prevent musicology from being a political act . . .they assure that every apolitical act assumes a greater political immediacy' - Philip Bohlman, 'Musicology as a Political Act'
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« Reply #13 on: 19:52:01, 20-10-2007 »

Yeh Richard, I have been in many situations like this... round and round in circles... no -one knowing what they are doing, we all just listen to their wrangling and picking at silly details and then someone will vote someone in.... I'll leave it to you lot... I have done it far too many times before, and at last I can go and ignore it all and watch rugby.

A
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« Reply #14 on: 19:52:45, 20-10-2007 »

Ian,

Now you can't understand MY posts  Roll Eyes Cheesy

It should be clear from your posts/quoted that YOU are NOT concerned about the interests of the majority of R3ok forum members whereas I am.


John W
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