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David Mellor has just said how disappointed he is that the Classic FM Hall of Fame (300 works) contains not one example of Beethoven's chamber music "so I'm going to play his piano trio the Archduke Trio, the second movement scherzo". Unfortunately two commercials were played before the music started  I like David Mellor. He has just explained now that the musicians were playing original instruments, including fortepiano and gut strings etc., he has named the musicians and explained why the trio is named the 'Archduke'. Then he read something from Spohr, a tragic description of the deaf Beethoven rehearsing, and followed that with Stephen Kovacevich playing Piano Sonata No.32, just the second movement. David plays and discusses music that you won't hear on ClassicFM during those dreadful daytime shows, it's just a shame he has to tolerate the restrictions and commercials imposed by ClassicFM. John W |
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« Reply #1 on: 07:32:03, 24-04-2007 » |
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I have to say when I think of Mellor I recall the de Sanchez business (I was working round the corner from their
trysting place at the time, my then manager noticed them coming and going and to his credit didnt alert the
tabloids). Mellor seems to have matured a bit since then, and so I think has Darren Henley of Classic FM
from his handling of theJazz. If he starts listening as closely to musicians and audiences as he has for that project
then what you describe at CFM may change.
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« Reply #2 on: 13:34:09, 13-05-2007 » |
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As an alternative to R3's familiar Vivaldi on Early Music programme, this morning I've listened to some intelligent broadcasting on ClassicFM from David Mellor, playing fine music of Josef Suk and Dvorak. I don't mind that he's playing just one or two movements from works, it's the first time I have 'listened' to music by Suk, enjoying it.
John W
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« Reply #3 on: 10:06:03, 16-05-2007 » |
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I don't like David Mellor. I'm sick of failed Tory Politicians with dubious morals making a career for themselves as broadcasters. This one appears to know no more about music than the average A-level music student.
I can't forget that he was a member of the government thta damaged Britain far more than the Luftwaffe, many members of which were impressed and killed for it. No-one made him be an MP and he he has never recanted.
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« Reply #4 on: 10:36:32, 16-05-2007 » |
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Eh?
'Impressed and killed' for what??? Recanted for what? Who said anyone 'made' anyone be an MP?
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« Reply #5 on: 10:50:11, 16-05-2007 » |
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Well, I have little time for most Tories, but David Mellor was by no means one of the worst. His resignation wasn't really brought about because of 'dubious morals' through his affair with Antonia de Sancha, but because of his friendship with Palestinian Mona Bauwens, daughter of a PLO official. After Mellor went to the West Bank and very publicly drew attention to the barbaric actions of some Israeli soldiers during the first Intifada, he was always going to be under a lot of pressure. The Mona Bauwens connection gave the final ammunition against him.
That said, I don't tune in to his radio stuff, and am not impressed by his views on modern music!
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« Reply #6 on: 10:52:17, 16-05-2007 » |
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I don't like David Mellor. I'm sick of failed Tory Politicians with dubious morals making a career for themselves as broadcasters. This one appears to know no more about music than the average A-level music student. Eh, smittins I don't have A-level music so Mellor's style suits me fine. I would say the majority of our 300 members here do not have A-level music, but a few of them are good at the R3ok quizzes  I can't forget that he was a member of the government ...... Well, during his programme that thought never crosses my mind, it's a music programme. John W |
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« Reply #7 on: 12:19:32, 16-05-2007 » |
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If you don't have A-level in music then it's all the more important to have a knowledgeable and honest person to inform you. Otherwose you won't know when you are being misinformed. On his past record, I believe David Mellor is neither knowledgeable nor honest .
And music programme or not,once a politician,always a politician,It will out.
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« Reply #8 on: 14:41:08, 16-05-2007 » |
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smittins,
Please don't remind me again that he was a politician; I told you that I listen to his music programme for the music and for his guidance.
Mr Mellor is very informative, his show is aimed at me. He often plays music that I have not heard before or new CDs that I have not heard, and as he's at a similar level to me I can soon check out anything he says that might suggest I'm being mis-informed. He is a broadcaster not a musician.
When someone tries to do both you can end up with something like Charles Hazlewood. With him, on the radio at least, I find it's a case of too much information and at such a high level where he is basically not informing me at all, so I won't/can't check if I'm being mis-informed. I expect he suits you smittins.
I don't mind Charles on the TV, where he's taking/talking an orchestra through a Beethoven symphony for example, I find those programmes fascinating.
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« Reply #9 on: 11:13:13, 17-05-2007 » |
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Hi,John,did you know David Mellor used to be a politician?
My screen name is smittims,not smittens or smittins.
I find little to choose in poor broadcasting ability between David Mellor (an ex-politician)and Charles Hazlewood.
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« Reply #10 on: 17:16:31, 17-05-2007 » |
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smittims, As I say, Mellor informs me about music, at my level. You can't say he doesn't inform me, because he does |
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« Reply #11 on: 20:38:11, 17-05-2007 » |
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Did anyone see the BBC4 programme on the patriotic song Jerusalem last night? David Mellor spoke as well as anyone else and better than some, I think. There was an attempt to demonstrate what the song means to different groups of people - the WI, the [edit: silly party], football supporters, the Church, black people, public schools and even nudists. (Why are nudists always of that certain age and that certain shape?) The worst part was when they did what just about every programme of this type feels it has to do - rapid switching from one head to another as they all sing a bit of it.
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« Reply #12 on: 20:42:26, 17-05-2007 » |
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« Reply #13 on: 20:54:12, 17-05-2007 » |
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Must admit, I still have fond memories of Mellor challenging that Israeli thug in uniform over the braking of a Palestinian youth's arm.
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« Reply #14 on: 21:52:19, 17-05-2007 » |
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Yes, despite all his cruddiness there is at least something tangentially admirable about Mellor; but that's only measured against unspeakable Tory monstrosities. To me, he's the Tory equivalent of Labour's Tony Banks (with whom he was very good friends) - someone who sort of fell into the job rather than plotted and schemed to carve a career. Hate his politics, but grudgingly respect his attitude, because it's almost honest. The sex stuff is, frankly, small beer compared with what generally goes on, undiscovered. Although, a CHELSEA strip?? Ugh. |
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