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Tony Watson
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« Reply #270 on: 23:56:48, 03-04-2007 »

Ian - you seem to have a thing about Hoseasons holidays. Perhaps you'd enjoy this picture from Real Classic magazine, which has a family connection I think.

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« Reply #271 on: 00:20:15, 04-04-2007 »

Ian - you seem to have a thing about Hoseasons holidays. I saw Mr Hoseason tonight and he wanted you to be assured that it is a family name and not short for holiday-seasons, or ho-ho-seasons, whatever. His sister is editor of Real Classic magazine.



(Tried to make that smaller but don't know how!)

(try looking at what I did by quoting this message!)

Hoseasons is a type of idyll, a lost paradise that is forever distant but a locus for yearnings. It represents a type of Arcadian world that is the stuff of which dreams are made, and as such, as an ideal, it can act as a guiding light in all moments of one's life.
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Tony Watson
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« Reply #272 on: 00:24:52, 04-04-2007 »

Hoseasons is a type of idyll, a lost paradise that is forever distant but a locus for yearnings. It represents a type of Arcadian world that is the stuff of which dreams are made, and as such, as an ideal, it can act as a guiding light in all moments of one's life.

You ought to work for their advertising department. And I've made my picture smaller too.
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« Reply #273 on: 01:05:49, 04-04-2007 »

Hoseasons is a type of idyll, a lost paradise that is forever distant but a locus for yearnings. It represents a type of Arcadian world that is the stuff of which dreams are made, and as such, as an ideal, it can act as a guiding light in all moments of one's life.

Ian - what ARE you on?!!  Shocked And can I have some?!?  Grin

The last time I read anything like that it was about Elgar...
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« Reply #274 on: 09:23:24, 04-04-2007 »

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Maybe because there isn't anything like the same amount of music for them to play from composers in the standard repertoire?
On the other hand, in the, ahem, far-from-standard repertoire, there are composers around who have written much more for solo wind instruments than for piano.

As for Holliger, for me his talents as oboist and conductor (and indeed occasional pianist) are exceptional, but it's as a composer that he really stands out - I'd put his Violin Concerto, for example, pretty much on a level with Berg's.
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« Reply #275 on: 11:45:20, 05-04-2007 »

Xenakis - complete works for percussion (3 CDs, relatively new on Mode), played by Steve Schick and friends. I've had to listen to Schick's performance of the solo piece Rebonds twice in succession because I couldn't quite believe how superhumanly precise his interpretation is. I suppose he must have played it hundreds of times, but still... also there are a few pieces I'd never previously heard like the trio Okho, and which I'd only heard once, for example the harpsichord/percussion duo Oophaa which I found a bit baffling when I first heard it (early 1990s) but makes much more sense to me now, probably because performing standards have improved, despite its still coming over as an extended footnote to the earlier Komboi for the same instrumentation. Anyway, it seems to me that none of Xenakis' percussion music has been recorded in better performances than this and very little of it anything like as well, and the range of it (two solos, one trio, two sextets, two duos with harpsichord, one with oboe and one with voice) ensures that it doesn't all blur into a generalised impression.

Highly recommended, as they say, and not just for the converted.
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« Reply #276 on: 19:33:32, 05-04-2007 »

On the other hand, in the, ahem, far-from-standard repertoire, there are composers around who have written much more for solo wind instruments than for piano.
Thinking of anyone in particular, Richard?

(In your own case it would be a bit of a close-run thing in terms of duration, wouldn't it? Wink
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« Reply #277 on: 12:27:09, 06-04-2007 »

Been listening quite a bit over the last few days to one pianist I didn't really know that well - Samson François. Just to the 'Great Pianists of the 20th Century' volume on him (have the whole set, but still haven't listened to all of them). Couldn't recommend it more - amazingly individual, subtle and expressively complex Chopin (and mostly my favourite Chopin pieces - Ballades, Impromptus, Second Sonata), Debussy that truly gets to the heart of the ecstatic quality of the music in a way that is not remotely contrived, and perhaps the greatest Fauré playing I've ever heard (just two pieces, the second Impromptu and second Nocturne); one of the hardest composers to do well, can so easily sound either like mantlepiece music, or alternatively sound ridiculous if one tries to apply heavy Teutonic 'expressiveness' to it. François gauges the subtlest of nuances in a way that sounds so startlingly effortless (not remotely precious), has a real feel for the sense of line, and plays the most heart-breaking harmonies so clearly but without 'milking' them. Can't recommend it enough.

Must get the big set of Les introuvables de Samson François - anyone have it?

Would anyone be interested in a thread on Fauré?
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« Reply #278 on: 12:56:09, 06-04-2007 »

Re Samson Francois - many years ago CfP released his recordings of Chopin Etudes and Waltzes - rather idiosyncratic but recommebdable nonetheless. I have his complete Ravel which is NOT recommendable, at least not in toto - some unbelievable misreadings in Miroirs (wrong notes at the opening of Oiseaux tristes, wrong clef in Vallee des cloches); slow and leaden Ondine, mannered Sonatine and all marred by a close and unattractive recorded sound quality. His other Chopin recordings (there was a very cheap EMI box available some years ago) are much better. He recorded the Ravel and Liszt concertos (with Cluytens and, I think, Silvestri) and Chopin with Fremaux; Fremaux also appears on a DVD of Ravel LH Concerto and Grieg Concerto which reveals a casually aristocratic figure at the keyboard.

Will listen again to my Great Pianists set - I too have all 200 discs (!!!) but have only dipped in...

And, yes to Faure - heard the second cello sonata yesterday - extraordinary! - and have been coaching the Piano Trio over the last few weeks. And those late song cycles - marvellous music.
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« Reply #279 on: 13:00:38, 06-04-2007 »

And, yes to Faure - heard the second cello sonata yesterday - extraordinary! - and have been coaching the Piano Trio over the last few weeks. And those late song cycles - marvellous music.

Absolutely marvellous stuff. Do you know the Second Piano Quintet? I didn't before being asked to step in to play it at the last moment a few years ago. Incredible, takes that sort of musical language about as far as it could go. Listen to the long progression in the coda of the first movement, or the almost piercing unresolved suspensions in the slow one. Can stand its own in the context of any of the greatest chamber works.
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« Reply #280 on: 13:05:18, 06-04-2007 »

I heard the Schubert Ensemble play that second quintet, and it completely knocked my socks off. But shamefully I'm still ignorant of other late work - must do something about that! As you say, Ian, it's hard to imagine that 'idiom' being pushed any harder, or with more intensity of focus.
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« Reply #281 on: 13:05:35, 06-04-2007 »

wrong clef in Vallee des cloches

Pascal Rogé does the same in that piece - that A-flat/B-flat ostinato mysteriously becomes C-D in the bass for a bar! Now, those old French editions are notoriously bad, but you would think that one's pretty obvious.

Incidentally, Ravel should come out of copyright for the second time this year (the last time he came out was just before the harmonisation of EU copyright laws, so Peters could not finish their new edition, though they were allowed to keep in print those volumes they had published). Hopefully we should get a new edition of the Valses nobles et sentimentales; I have a theory that there are many errors in the big cadenza of the Left Hand Concerto as well, so people who have had it in their fingers for years may have to 'unlearn' certain patterns! Like with that supposed shift in the pattern in Ondine on about the third line, which it turned out was simply a printing error - one pianist I pointed that out to got rather upset as she had practised that shift for ages!
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« Reply #282 on: 13:09:04, 06-04-2007 »

I heard the Schubert Ensemble play that second quintet, and it completely knocked my socks off. But shamefully I'm still ignorant of other late work - must do something about that! As you say, Ian, it's hard to imagine that 'idiom' being pushed any harder, or with more intensity of focus.

Hearing that highly-developed late style made me go back to the earlier works, including some of those I might have thought moderately lightweight; found much more in them. The disc of Pascal Roge and Quatour Ysaye playing the Second Quintet is very fine, if a little over-late-romanticised for my taste (Domus go to the other extreme, but don't really supplement the lack of that with much else). Also very much recommended - Isabelle Faust and Florent Boffard playing Fauré's works for violin and piano. Gorgeous stuff, can't listen to it enough.
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« Reply #283 on: 14:31:56, 06-04-2007 »

Pascal Rogé does the same in that piece - that A-flat/B-flat ostinato mysteriously becomes C-D in the bass for a bar! Now, those old French editions are notoriously bad, but you would think that one's pretty obvious.

... Like with that supposed shift in the pattern in Ondine on about the third line, which it turned out was simply a printing error - one pianist I pointed that out to got rather upset as she had practised that shift for ages!
Pascal Rogé also repeats both notes every time in the ostinato in Le Gibet if I remember correctly (at least on the Decca recording), and there's also half a bar missing. Oops.

Ondine used to have that octave sign missing from the big glissando, didn't it? So there are recordings where a gliss which is supposed to go to the top of the keyboard suddenly drops down the octave...
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« Reply #284 on: 14:35:14, 06-04-2007 »

Pascal Rogé also repeats both notes every time in the ostinato in Le Gibet if I remember correctly (at least on the Decca recording), and there's also half a bar missing. Oops.

Maybe blame Durand?

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Ondine used to have that octave sign missing from the big glissando, didn't it? So there are recordings where a gliss which is supposed to go to the top of the keyboard suddenly drops down the octave...

Never heard anyone actually play that; surely no-one would have thought that was intentional?
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