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« Reply #3600 on: 18:32:10, 14-09-2008 » |
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I don't know if I've ever knowingly heard Halstead playing a horn with valves on before  The sound's incredibly round, even on the verge of becoming 'woofy'. Gervase de Peyer similarly, sounds almost like a flute... |
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Ron Dough
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« Reply #3601 on: 19:04:57, 14-09-2008 » |
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It's Kingsway Hall - where else? The recordings were made by Decca for RCA, with Wilkie in charge of the engineering: in effect the same set-up as was supplied by Decca for Lyrita recordings of the same period. There was a TV documentary made about the recording of the cycle, shown on BBC2 when it was all in the can, but before its release as a set.
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« Reply #3602 on: 19:24:00, 14-09-2008 » |
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Now spinning: Cavalli's La Calisto as performed by Glimmerglass Opera.
Bernard Deletré (Giove)
Lisa Saffer (Calisto)
Drew Minter (Endimione)
Christine Abraham (Giove as Diana/Diana)
Eugene Perry (Mercurio)
Steven Tharp (Pane)
Christine Goerke (Giunone)
Elaine Bonazzi (Linfea)
David A Walker (Satirino)
Victor Benedetti (Silvano)
Karen Early Evans (Furie)
Megan Dey Tóth (Furie)
conducted by Jane Glover
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'is this all we can do?' anonymous student of the University of Berkeley, California quoted in H. Draper, 'The new student revolt' (New York: Grove Press, 1965) http://www.myspace.com/itensemble |
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« Reply #3603 on: 19:29:36, 14-09-2008 » |
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Wagner from Birgit Nilsson, Charles Mackerras and the Sydney Symphony Orchestra at the opening concert of the Sydney Opera House (1973). http://www.buywell.com/cgi-bin/buywellic2/afly.html?mv_arg=127431. Die Meistersinger - Act I Prelude 2. Tannhäuer - Greeting 3. Tristan - Prelude and Liebestod 4. Götterdämmerung - Rhine Journey - Funeral March - Immolation Scene |
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« Reply #3604 on: 21:03:12, 14-09-2008 » |
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 I think it's safe to say there isn't another recording of these pieces quite like this one. |
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« Reply #3605 on: 21:15:03, 14-09-2008 » |
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« Reply #3606 on: 21:32:10, 14-09-2008 » |
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 Hm. This should be interesting. ....indeed it is. And the Mastersingers prelude on the end is an absolute corker. |
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« Reply #3607 on: 23:03:03, 14-09-2008 » |
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Hm. This should be interesting. ....indeed it is. And the Mastersingers prelude on the end is an absolute corker. First you climb aboard with Mr Prevalent's RVW, now you join our small band of Norrington's Elgar devotees. Whatever next Mr. Sudden? You have already sampled Andrew Davis's Messiaen, I suspect?  |
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« Reply #3608 on: 23:11:11, 14-09-2008 » |
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First you climb aboard with Mr Prevalent's RVW, now you join our small band of Norrington's Elgar devotees. Whatever next Mr. Sudden? You have already sampled Andrew Davis's Messiaen, I suspect? Not as yet, Mr Bryn, not as yet... I'm a firm believer in sampling Sir Roger's offerings. I don't like all of them and there are only a few which are really consistently satisfying from one end to the other but doesn't the feller make you think? |
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« Reply #3609 on: 23:39:50, 14-09-2008 » |
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I'm afraid though that having for the moment needed a little extra wattage from the 4th I've got one down from the shelf that I bought a little while back but hadn't found the time and mood for until now. And it's just the ticket.
I think Ron at least (and probably many others) can probably guess which one it might be...
So far as I'm concerned, it can only be one of two, Oz, and since in a conversation long ago you mentioned a preference for RVW's original ending for the Andante Moderato, I'm assuming that the composer's 78s are already known to you, which suggests that the version which transported you successfully was Lenny's CBS, my other front runner for the 4th. I must try and dig out my tape of Solti live with the LPO, circa 1975, though: what a pity Decca never recorded that: absolutely right up his street. |
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« Reply #3610 on: 00:01:07, 15-09-2008 » |
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I'm afraid though that having for the moment needed a little extra wattage from the 4th I've got one down from the shelf that I bought a little while back but hadn't found the time and mood for until now. And it's just the ticket.
I think Ron at least (and probably many others) can probably guess which one it might be...
So far as I'm concerned, it can only be one of two, Oz, and since in a conversation long ago you mentioned a preference for RVW's original ending for the Andante Moderato, I'm assuming that the composer's 78s are already known to you, which suggests that the version which transported you successfully was Lenny's CBS, my other front runner for the 4th. I must try and dig out my tape of Solti live with the LPO, circa 1975, though: what a pity Decca never recorded that: absolutely right up his street. The Bernstein VW4 is really hair-raising (or would be if I had much hair to raise...) - wonderful. But I'm ashamed to say that I''d no idea Solti had conducted it at all - it would be great to hear it. Coincidentally I remember an exciting VW4 from about the same time (1973, I think) with Haitink and the LPO - a concert that also included "In the South". |
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« Reply #3611 on: 00:12:56, 15-09-2008 » |
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Just like Solti's Elgar and Holst, it was closely modelled on the composer's recording: very powerful, with that glittering ferocity not uncommon in other Solti performances. There are persistent rumours of a Solti/Chicago Walton 1 recorded in the last days of analog(ue) too, though sadly if it does exist, it's never seen the light of day, and is hardly likely to, considering present circumstances.
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« Reply #3613 on: 08:32:33, 15-09-2008 » |
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I'm afraid though that having for the moment needed a little extra wattage from the 4th I've got one down from the shelf that I bought a little while back but hadn't found the time and mood for until now. And it's just the ticket.
I think Ron at least (and probably many others) can probably guess which one it might be...
So far as I'm concerned, it can only be one of two, Oz, and since in a conversation long ago you mentioned a preference for RVW's original ending for the Andante Moderato, I'm assuming that the composer's 78s are already known to you, which suggests that the version which transported you successfully was Lenny's CBS, my other front runner for the 4th. I must try and dig out my tape of Solti live with the LPO, circa 1975, though: what a pity Decca never recorded that: absolutely right up his street. Now I'm honestly trying to remember when that might have been, Ron... not of course saying that I never said it! It was indeed the composer's own recording which I'd seen at Dussmann once for a very reasonable price indeed and snapped up, and which had been waiting for the right moment - it hadn't made it to the player before a couple of days ago. (I'm pretty sure about that because it still had the plastic on.) Mmm, Vaughan Williams 4 / Bernstein, now there's a thought... I did finally hear the Previn last night and very fine it is too. It's not quite so hard-driven as the composer's recording (or for that matter the first one I heard, with a very much muddier LSO under Bryden Thomson for Chandos) but the clarity is incredible and there are a lot of things which gain from having a little more attention and time to speak. Still, for me that kind of approach makes the symphony's material actually seem a little bit thin... |
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« Reply #3614 on: 09:59:31, 15-09-2008 » |
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Interestingly, particularly in the light of Previn's Walton 1 (released in the year before he started the RVW cycle, and renowned for its vivid, violent verve) neither 4 nor 6 in his RVW cycle really exploits their temperament to the same degree, and it's other qualities in the composer's music which he brings to light.
Worth mentioning that the Walton and RVW 2 and 5 also exist in remakes with the RPO for Telarc in readings of a more restrained, internalised nature: that second London is possibly my favourite of all: it and the 5th are due for imminent reissue in a Telarc bargain double pack.
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