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Turfan Fragment
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« Reply #3570 on: 12:50:52, 13-09-2008 »
Quote from: martle on 12:47:50, 13-09-2008
(at least as far as writing goes).
What else we talking about? Improved production values?

Quote from: richard barrett on 12:49:14, 13-09-2008
Quote from: Turfan Fragment on 12:42:51, 13-09-2008
Even now, I hear synthesized sounds and immediately they 'signify' something disingenuous to me. A part of me immediately turns its knee-jerk nose up at the phrase 'production values' -- I am learning to listen differently, but it's taken a very long time. Does this count as an admission of Embarrassing Ignorance? Probably.

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« Reply #3571 on: 12:55:22, 13-09-2008 »
Quote from: time_is_now on 00:32:42, 13-09-2008
I didn't know about the existence of this CD. I want it! (Are you saying though that Heaton does multi-track the Zimmermann, or that he doesn't??)

Can I suggest you look here?

He multitracks everything on that CD (including the Zimmermann). It gives it a particular sound that I'm not sure I like.
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« Reply #3572 on: 12:57:41, 13-09-2008 »
Quote from: Turfan Fragment on 12:42:51, 13-09-2008
Even now, I hear synthesized sounds and immediately they 'signify' something disingenuous to me. A part of me immediately turns its knee-jerk nose up at the phrase 'production values' --

Interesting. I don't find synthesizers disingenuous, but my goodness they can be cheesy can't they? While listening to Stevie Wonder's Talking Book the other night I remarked to my girlfriend that as far as I could think of only Wonder and Herbie Hancock could use synthesisers so extensively and convincingly without them becoming embarrassing...and even they succumbed to cheesiness by the 80s. Obviously this is an ill-considered and sweeping statement, but I think it sums up my experience of synth-based music so far.

The phrase I used was 'quality of studio production' I think, which is something different from 'production values' - the former serving the music, the latter being an end in itself.

(also, as a bit of a HiFi geek, it's worth noting that synthesisers seem to jump around the room and come alive with a good HiFi in a way that's not always the case with acoustic music. So there can be a real feeling of dynamism arising from the quality of the production - oh, I've just thought of another one, Quincey Jones's production (with lots of synths) on Michael Jackson's Thriller album is fantastic in this way as well, although the material is not as engaging for me as Hancock or Wonder...)
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« Reply #3573 on: 13:24:18, 13-09-2008 »
Quote from: stuart macrae on 12:57:41, 13-09-2008
Quincey Jones's production (with lots of synths) on Michael Jackson's Thriller album is fantastic in this way as well, although the material is not as engaging for me as Hancock or Wonder
Actually, that's another record I must get. I find the title song itself probably more immediately engaging than anything from Innervisions (which although I like, I've been surprised at the number of raves it's got from other members) but it would be interesting to hear it in context.
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« Reply #3574 on: 13:54:11, 13-09-2008 »
Beat It and Billie Jean are also great from that album, tinners, but I could happily do without most of the rest of the album. That's the thing with these 70s Stevie Wonder records - there's almost no filler in there.
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« Reply #3575 on: 14:02:58, 13-09-2008 »
NS chez Dough:
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« Reply #3576 on: 16:13:22, 13-09-2008 »
Quote from: Ron Dough on 08:41:09, 13-09-2008
I love TBP, Pim: the first Butler work I ever heard. It took a couple of days to get beyond that first track on the disc, because I connected so strongly with the music that I had to play it several times to see if it really was as fabulous as I first thought it to be: many, many hearings since then have failed to change my opinion.  Wink

Yes, it's a lovely piece! Smiley
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« Reply #3577 on: 16:29:17, 13-09-2008 »
Quote from: Ron Dough on 14:02:58, 13-09-2008
NS chez Dough:


Sounds more like gagaku to me... Wink
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« Reply #3578 on: 19:33:43, 13-09-2008 »


Picked up in Oxfam today, for £2.99. Always worth hearing another recording of this, or any other, Messiaen work.

Also purchased at the same time:



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« Reply #3579 on: 19:54:15, 13-09-2008 »
Now spinning:



Vagn Holmboe - Concerto for Recorder, Strings, Celesta and Vibraphone
Dan Laurin, recorders
Anne Bisgaard, celesta
Jesper Mikkelsen, vibraphone
Aalborg Symphony Orchestra conducted by Owain Arwel Hughes
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« Reply #3580 on: 20:21:40, 13-09-2008 »
Pim,a belated ThankYou for your pro bona PM a while ago. You too may have the Holmboe symphs box by OAH- v good at his best and prolifically so.
Since Rafferty is ensconced in the last night commentary box ideally I'dhavesome Stevie Wonder singles stacked up in reserve. I'd like put a wordin for bits of TheSecret Life of Plants (during which apparently Sarah Miles helped him'see' theflora) , Ribbon in the Sky, and the storming 10minute Do IDo with Dizzy Gillespie as 80seffortsamidst the contractualobligationstuff.Aboutthat time I heard him play an all-too-brief bit of hard bop piano extempore on r1 of all places.
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« Reply #3581 on: 20:30:47, 13-09-2008 »
Mr marbleflugel,
I have not seen you for a while and was happy to see you.
I hope you are doing well.
I don't understand your message, so I can not comment on it. I just wanted to say "Hello" and Good to see you.
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« Reply #3582 on: 21:01:28, 13-09-2008 »
Hi t-p,

Nice to be back-its been a very busy week and I'm pretty tired but ok.Hope you're enjoying your evening.
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« Reply #3583 on: 21:08:08, 13-09-2008 »


The 6th thereof.

Cripes!

More later. (Thanks Ron, as ever.)
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« Reply #3584 on: 21:27:20, 13-09-2008 »
OH MY SAINTED AUNT

I'm gobsmacked. Stunning playing, stunningly recorded. Every little nook and cranny but also the grand sweep. I loved this music already but I didn't know how much.

Everything Ron said was true. Why did it take me so long to hear this? Oh well, main thing is I did.

(I wish they would let me write actual reviews like this...  Cheesy)
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