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« Reply #3540 on: 22:48:38, 11-09-2008 » |
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the 3LP set of the complete Lokale Musik. (Which I also have.)
By the way, if anyone is interested in exchanging this for a digitised version of same done with a good turntable, they may have it. |
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« Reply #3541 on: 23:03:14, 11-09-2008 » |
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I wish I could Richard...
If anyone volunteers, I'd be happy to pay for a copy...
NS: Rihm, Jagden und Formen
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY am I doing this to myself?
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NS: Rihm, Jagden und Formen
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY am I doing this to myself?
Oh dear oh dear oh dear, you don't want to be listening to that horrible thing, no wonder you're getting all these headaches. |
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« Reply #3543 on: 23:22:50, 11-09-2008 » |
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NS: Rihm, Jagden und Formen
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY am I doing this to myself?
Oh dear oh dear oh dear, you don't want to be listening to that horrible thing, no wonder you're getting all these headaches. Actually it's not that bad if you're in the next room washing up while you're listening to it. I just don't understand why he thought that treating pastiche of late Donatoni in the style of late Boulez would result in anything other than fatigue... And please don't get me started on those horror film chorales. I have a feeling that this is going to go off fairly soon... |
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« Reply #3544 on: 23:25:29, 11-09-2008 » |
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Actually it's not that bad if you're in the next room washing up while you're listening to it.
Lavish praise indeed! I am very disappointed you mentioned washing up because it reminded me of what's in the next room. I shall now retire with my iPod to the kitchen. I may be gone some time. |
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« Reply #3545 on: 07:31:04, 12-09-2008 » |
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With headphones they are more audible but not a lot.
If I see our technical guys tomorrow I'll ask them about this.
Are they hard to play Ollie?
The pieces aren't hard to play but as you say bringing our the difference tones is a tricky business indeed. Richard, I don't think the fundamental is all that weak in the clarinet spectrum compared with, say, the oboe where if I remember right sometimes the fundamental is actually weaker than some of the overtones. But I must look further. Hm, this is interesting. You may have a point as far as the low register goes. (Which might make sense since the upper register is 'tangier' and difference tones are indeed easier to bring out there.) What a pity duty is calling me. http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/music/clarinet/ |
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« Reply #3546 on: 07:33:07, 12-09-2008 » |
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NS: Rihm, Jagden und Formen
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY am I doing this to myself?
Oh dear oh dear oh dear, you don't want to be listening to that horrible thing, no wonder you're getting all these headaches. Actually it's not that bad if you're in the next room washing up while you're listening to it. I just don't understand why he thought that treating pastiche of late Donatoni in the style of late Boulez would result in anything other than fatigue... And please don't get me started on those horror film chorales. I have a feeling that this is going to go off fairly soon... It's not that bad if you're in the middle of it mentally preparing yourself to wind it all up with a contrabass clarinet slap-tongue orgy. Or for that matter enjoying Cathy's cor anglais bits. But even then it's hard to suppress a cringe at the filmy stuff. |
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« Reply #3547 on: 22:29:34, 12-09-2008 » |
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NS: Stevie Wonder, Innervisions
Splendid. Visions is a masterpiece IMHO I spin Innervisions at least once a month on account of its genius. NS here: Berio, Concerto for two pianos, thanks to a CD tinners passed under the table last night. Although I have the LP this recording was originally released on in the '70s, I don't think I've heard the piece for about 15 years. Utterly brilliant and compelling. I remember every note. I have a real soft spot for 1970s Berio (well, even softer than the rest of him). Such visceral and crystal-clear ideas. And drama! |
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« Reply #3548 on: 00:05:07, 13-09-2008 » |
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To all the Stevie Wonder fans: what do you all think of Songs in the Key of Life, which was always my favourite album (closely followed by Innervisions)?
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« Reply #3549 on: 00:32:17, 13-09-2008 » |
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To all the Stevie Wonder fans: what do you all think of Songs in the Key of Life, which was always my favourite album (closely followed by Innervisions)?
I love that too, and the first two sides are a joy. The quality of studio production on these Stevie Wonder albums are among the best I have ever heard, too. I sometimes find listening to the whole of Songs in the Key of Life a little wearing, though, as not everything quite comes up to the same standard and it is more than a double-album, after all... |
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« Reply #3550 on: 00:32:42, 13-09-2008 » |
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 I've been meaning to get this for ages but I decided to buy a load of Zimmermann the other day. Am I right in thinking that 25 Kärwa Melodien just won't work if you multitrack two clarinets...? I didn't know about the existence of this CD. I want it! (Are you saying though that Heaton does multi-track the Zimmermann, or that he doesn't??) Ian: Believe it or not, I've never knowingly heard Songs in the Key of Life. It's one of those keep-meaning-to-get-hold-of-a-copy things. Oh, and thanks to martle for guiding my mention of Innervisions to its rightful place. Goodness knows why I originally posted it in the Grumpy Old Rant Room.  |
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« Reply #3551 on: 00:50:14, 13-09-2008 » |
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Go on, you didn't expect that did you?
NOBODY expects Jiří Bělohlávek! Our main weapon is surprise! Surprise and accents you can't type on a PC! Nor on a Mac without changing your keyboard to Czech or copying and pasting from a web page, surely? Both of which worked fine on a PC last time I tried... Now, this is a bit of a mystery to me. ALT+0345 works fine for ř in MS Word on my PC, but if I use it while typing a post directly on to this forum it comes out as Y. If I do it in Word and copy-paste it into a forum post it remains as ř. On the same piece of paper on the back of my desk on which I've scribbled that ALT+0345 code, I've also made a note-to-self to the effect that "ALT+0283+char" yields an ě. I've no recollection of what I meant by "+char" in that context. When I try ALT+0283 in MS Word, nothing appears to happen ... but a little bit of experimentation just now suggests that if I subsequently let go of ALT and press any other key, the ě suddenly appears. |
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« Reply #3552 on: 00:51:02, 13-09-2008 » |
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So have they remastered the Chronochromie, as you were mentioning the other week you hoped they would? |
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« Reply #3553 on: 01:28:50, 13-09-2008 » |
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So have they remastered the Chronochromie, as you were mentioning the other week you hoped they would? They have indeed, Richard. It is a significant improvement on the earlier French EMI version. It is not clear whether this Dorati recording is included in the forthcoming EMI Messiaen box. The Quartet recording is not, it appears. It seems the box will have EMI's recording with Loriod on piano. |
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« Reply #3554 on: 02:04:39, 13-09-2008 » |
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Thanks, Anty.  I may wait to see what's in that Messiaen box (which I didn't know about), as I already have that recording of the Quatuor on an old EMI 'L'Esprit Francais' issue coupled with Le merle noir ... |
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